clcolucci58
Established
I notice that a lot you here at RFF keep there film stored in a freezer or is a refrigerator better, and when you want to shoot some film how long do you let it set out to warm up. Looking to store my film because I will be keeping a large sum on hand like 20-30 rolls of 120 and maybe even 35mm. As always thanks for the feedback and advice.
Regard,
clc
Regard,
clc
Steve Bellayr
Veteran
30 minutes. But I always keep a roll out at room temperature...just in case. Film can be refrozen.
Bill Clark
Veteran
I've found the longer it can get to room temp. the better.
I like to take it out the day before.
Jury still out for me if it does any good to freeze or keep it in a cabinet, in the dark, and temp. same as the environment.
Using B&W film dated 2003. Still works just fine. The only exception, on higher speed films - fog over time.
I like to take it out the day before.
Jury still out for me if it does any good to freeze or keep it in a cabinet, in the dark, and temp. same as the environment.
Using B&W film dated 2003. Still works just fine. The only exception, on higher speed films - fog over time.
Godfrey
somewhat colored
I keep 35mm and 120 film in the freezer. I take it out a day before I'm going to use it. (Always have a few rolls out "just in case.")
I keep Polaroid film from Impossible and Fuji in the refrigerator, same deal: take it out the day before at least, and always keep a few out "just in case."
G
I keep Polaroid film from Impossible and Fuji in the refrigerator, same deal: take it out the day before at least, and always keep a few out "just in case."
G
Roger Hicks
Veteran
Dear Bill,I've found the longer it can get to room temp. the better.
I like to take it out the day before.
Jury still out for me if it does any good to freeze or keep it in a cabinet, in the dark, and temp. same as the environment.
Using B&W film dated 2003. Still works just fine. The only exception, on higher speed films - fog over time.
No, I don't think the jury is out for anyone else on this one. Ask any film manufacturer. Cold is good. I allow at least 1 hr, preferably 8. I tried once with 15 min. and got away with it. But "getting away with it" ain't the same as "best practice".
Cheers,
R.
Bill Clark
Veteran
Dear Roger,
With color film I can understand where cold helps with the dyes. Black & White it hasn't made a difference to me.
Just stating my experiences..No, I don't think the jury is out for anyone else on this one.
With color film I can understand where cold helps with the dyes. Black & White it hasn't made a difference to me.
Roger Hicks
Veteran
Dear Bill,Dear Roger,
Just stating my experiences..
With color film I can understand where cold helps with the dyes. Black & White it hasn't made a difference to me.
You may not have seen the difference. Nor, in the vast majority of cases, have I. That doesn't mean there is no difference. As I say, ask the manufacturers, who test films a lot more carefully than you or I. This is why I wrote, "getting away with it" ain't the same as "best practice".
Cheers,
R.
pete hogan
Well-known
Tri-X in the refrigerator here, warms up overnight before loading.
Also, Arrhenius Equation says common chemical reactions at these temperatures double in rate for each 10 Celsius increase in temperature.
Also, Arrhenius Equation says common chemical reactions at these temperatures double in rate for each 10 Celsius increase in temperature.
Fotohuis
Well-known
All possibilities in any labority (Kodak) tested:
http://www.kodak.com/global/en/consumer/products/techInfo/e30/e30.pdf
http://www.kodak.com/global/en/consumer/products/techInfo/e30/e30.pdf
icebear
Veteran
For warming up I'd say 1 to 2 hrs at room temperature.
15 min. in your jeans pocket if you are in a rush
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15 min. in your jeans pocket if you are in a rush
Gareth Rees
Established
I take it out the night before usually, but have used film after an hour.
Bill Clark
Veteran
I'm using TMX-100 with expire date of 2003. It's kept in a cabinet in my office. Still works just fine.
I agree with kodak with other factors, like cosmic rays, can have degrading effects producing fog. I have had issues with that more so than how cold film is kept. I have found that temp differences can be harmful so I try to keep film, when not in a refrigerator/freezer in a cabinet that is dark and the temp doesn't change too much.
Just my 2 cents.
I agree with kodak with other factors, like cosmic rays, can have degrading effects producing fog. I have had issues with that more so than how cold film is kept. I have found that temp differences can be harmful so I try to keep film, when not in a refrigerator/freezer in a cabinet that is dark and the temp doesn't change too much.
Just my 2 cents.
Highway 61
Revisited
The same for me - same film, same storage conditions.I'm using TMX-100 with expire date of 2003. It's kept in a cabinet in my office. Still works just fine.
Over the years I've found that B&W films don't absolutely have to be frozen/refrigerated.
What must be avoided is a repetition of temperatures changes. So, storing them in the coolest place of your apartment/house (usually, the dark bottom of a cupboard) is fine enough.
I recently shot some FP4+ 120 rolls outdated since 1998. Perfectly fine.
Of course, things are different for color films. But - I don't shoot some any longer (digital for color, film and 100% home processing for B&W).
Fotohuis
Well-known
Over the years I've found that B&W films don't absolutely have to be frozen/refrigerated.
From our Fotohuis RoVo the B&W IR films are frozen, same for the professional C-41 and E-6 films. Amateur color films we never sold.
The rest of our B&W films are on a cool place, 15C-20C during the year.
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