sweet little Bessa R

FrankS

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My Bessa R arrived in the mail yesterday, and now I know what all the fuss was about. I'm just a little late getting on the bandwagon.

I loaded it up with FP4 (all I had, would have prefered 400) and stuck my "new" Canon 50mm f1.8 on it and took it out to the local coffee house for the evening. I had to shoot @ 1/8 sec and f1.8 but I took lots of frames so some should be good.

It's a sweet little camera. It fits into the Nikon FG bottom case that I had my Leica IIIf in, so it's that small. The viewfinder is a revelation! Even wearing eyeglasses I can see the framelines well.

Since I got to this point later than most of you I had the chance to do a lot of reading on the net about people's experinces and impressions of the R. I think I was able to avoid the dissappointment felt by some who hoped the Bessa would be up to Leica's build standard. I read it all and therefore had lower expectations. I knew the camera had a lot of plastic etc. The older cameras like the Leica and Canon RF that I have are real, they are metal. The Bessa is somewhat of a retro-lookalike wannabe with it's molded plastic top plate, but one thing, the most important thing, is not just cosmetic. This camera has real capability, and that's the functional thing that cameras are (should be) all about. It's only those (myself included here) that enjoy the camera as an object itself, who would be dissappointed. I know the Bessa R is not an old Leica/Canon/Nikon/Contax, but that's okay. I love the functionality of this camera. I even like that there is plastic on it, because that material choice allows the camera to be as light as it is. (Titanium would also do the trick but I wouldn't be able to afford it.) With the old Canon 50mm f1.8, it slips into my coat pocket and almost disappears there because it is so light. And since the camera is just a light tight box holding the film and the lens, and it is the lens that is responsible for the image, the plastic does not matter. The great viewfinder, the built-in meter, and the great ergonomics of the rest of the camera are all functionally great. I am a bit of a traditionalist and I wish the camera had metal top/bottom plates (like the R2) but I am happy with the trade-off for weight and cost. When I want the sensual tactile experience of a classic camera I can use my older metal ones. Since I'm using the same vintage glass on all my RF cameras, the images will all look the same anyway. When my primary goal is to come away with the best pictures possible with minimal fuss, it's the Bessa R for me.

Sorry for the ramble, but whenever I get new photo gear, I do a lot of thinking about it, and I know better than to expect my wife to be interested in this sort of banter. I can only hope that some of you are.
 
frank, that r is a great camera. i enjoy mine when i want something light and don't want to hassle with the handheld meter.
to really tempt you...when it is combined with the cv 35/2.5 lens, it is a great small & light and lethal combo. even with the 75 along for the ride, my little tamrac bag barely weighs in.

you gonna be one happy guy!

joe
 
Frank,

Congrats on your new Bessa R! As I'm sure you know, my R is my favorite camera, and I take it nearly everywhere. I also love exploring what can be done with all the old Leica SM lenses out there - and if I ever upgrade to an R2 or higher, I can get a simple SM to M adapter and keep using those lenses. What a deal!

As you mentioned - the people who pick at the Bessa R and downplay it are trying to compare it head-to-head with a Leica - and that's never been the point (at least to me). It ain't a Leica, and as you said, if you want that level of build quality, you should get a Leica (or vintage Canon, hehe). But my R has proven to be rugged enough for me, and although I do try to take care of it, I don't baby it, either.

Best Regards,

Bill Mattocks
 
Congrats, Frank! Enjoy your new camera, and shoot as much as you can!
I, on the other hand, just got a very nice little Canonet this morning, and already shot a roll! I'm off to the darkroom to develop the negs.... 🙂

Denis
 
denishr said:
Congrats, Frank! Enjoy your new camera, and shoot as much as you can!
I, on the other hand, just got a very nice little Canonet this morning, and already shot a roll! I'm off to the darkroom to develop the negs.... 🙂

Denis

Yeah!
 
Frank, enjoy! I hope you'll be able to get some iso400 film for the R soon. 🙂


bmattock said:
As you mentioned - the people who pick at the Bessa R and downplay it are trying to compare it head-to-head with a Leica - and that's never been the point (at least to me). It ain't a Leica, and as you said, if you want that level of build quality, you should get a Leica (or vintage Canon, hehe).

And even then one might prefer the R over a Leica. My M2 cost me about the same as my R but guess which one I use more? 🙂
I like the M2 but it's heavy, doesn't have an internal light meter, and loading film is slow (try loading an M2 when it's -15 C outside). No, for me the R is a perfect camera (though it has very stiff competition from the Leitz Minolta CL).
 
Congratulations on the new R, Frank. I am a complete newbee to the world of rangefinders (only been a few months now). The only rangefinder I have is the Bessa R with the 35/2.5 color skopar lens. I absolutely love shooting with this setup. I can't compare it to a Leica since I've never even held one. I suppose, some people could say I don't know what I'm missing. I say, who cares? I'm having way too much fun with my little toy. I guess ignorance is bliss.

I'm looking forward to seeing your images.

Bubba
 
Interesting to read your comments about the R qualities, Frank... and I think that's a pretty healthy viewpoint. It was somewhat similar for me when I set out to buy a new Snapshot Skopar 25mm from B&H, and the Bessa-L body was only $100 additional. A "no-brainer" as they say, and it turned out much better than I expected. Certainly no parity there with my M2, but entirely worthwhile.
 
During out meeting in Barcelona I had the option to grab Don's Bessa-L with the 21/4. Was inmediately surprised by how well that pretty little thing balanced and I found the build quality to be pretty good as well.
 
Glad to hear that your Bessa-R has finally arrived and from your well-reasoned account, you'll be pleased as punch with it. I've also done considerable reading about the R and the consensus seems to be that it's a heck-of-a camera and a steal at current prices.

I'm looking forward to seeing some of your shots from the evening at the coffee house. I don't think you'll be disappointed with the camera OR the Canon lens.

Walker
 
backalley photo said:
frank, that r is a great camera. i enjoy mine when i want something light and don't want to hassle with the handheld meter.joe


Joe, how do you manage to use the R without a handheld meter? I've tried both using handheld and built-in metering and the handehld is always the best. Yes i know that incident readings will be more accurate but I find that the meter in the R gives terrible exposures and I just can't trust it. My OM-1 is better.

Paul
 
Damn, why am i so easily influenced. Now i think about really selling everything and getting a bessa.
OK, but i'd have to keep the medium format gear of course. 😀

Glad you like it,frank. I wish you to be this enthousiastic about the first printed pics too.
 
paul,

it's just the years of experience...lol

i don't do anything fancy with the built in meter, except for a (like w/ a handhld) general sweep of the area and i tilt the camera down a bit and then hold that reading.
i have since sold that lovely little camera to gene so he may have some insight here also.
maybe your meter is off.

joe
 
backalley photo said:
i have since sold that lovely little camera to gene so he may have some insight here also.
maybe your meter is off.

joe
I find the metering on the R extremely reliable -- as it was on the R2 I owned. I think the built-in meters are one of the Bessa strong points. Bearing in mind that it's centre weighted and can be influenced by bright sky. Outdoors I tend to point it down a bit or meter off my hand and adjust. Indoors it has been a treasure.

Gene
 
I'll do some more checks later but I've been out today with 200 film loaded and in bright sunshine (sun behind me) I got a reading of 1/500 @ f5.6 yet my digisix read 1/500 @ f11.

Paul
 
I understand some Bessa meters are off. The simple solution is to adjust the film speed accordingly. Hope this helps.
Kurt M.
 
Yes, I purchased the BessaR from FrankS. It seems to work flawlessly for me. It is only one of the several LTM cameras I use regularly, as well as a few fixed lens RFDR's. The nature and style of photography that I regularly do with RFDR cameras is not very dependent on spot-on accurate metering, so I cannot comment on the ultimate accuracy. I would have to shoot some slides, rather than my regular ration of ISO 400 speed b/w film to determine the meter accuracy.

I will say that the b/w negatives I have shot appear to be well exposed, when I have used the built-in meter.
 
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