The end of Fuji film?? NOPE - False Alarm

would be a strange move with neopan 400 being re-introduced in europe while they said that if the demand rises they'll re-introduce astia again..:confused:
 
As a native English speaker I suggest the quote is referring to motion-picture products -- "some other products of motion picture". This is already known.

What's the surprise?
 
Yawn. That well known announcement concerns motion picture stock. As far as announced not positives proper by the way, but intermediates.
 
I heard an interview a couple of weeks ago at the NYC PDN expo with NA Fuji rep stating this was related to motion picture stock only.
 
It's never a good sign when a manufacturer stop producing any kind of film. It's a slope right now, but at some point there will be a precipice.
 
If Fuji and Kodak eventually stop production of color films, will any niche manufacturer maintain production? Several small manufacturers produce black and white film, but do any make color?
 
Pickett Wilson said:
It's never a good sign when a manufacturer stop producing any kind of film. It's a slope right now, but at some point there will be a precipice.
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Sure, but at the same time, there are new films coming to market. Kodak 500T is not that new, but I understand that it's not been available ready to shoot in 35mm until now. The Brothers Wright are selling it in 35mm canisters ready to shoot, with remjet removed. Now these are just details, but the point is that a month ago, as far as I know, I could not buy 500T ready to shoot in 35mm, now I can.

Same goes for SilverMax, last year, this was not for sale, and now it is.

Some things will come and some things will go, but it's not all bad for film, not by a long way. New cameras have appeared, new films have appeared, it could be a lot worse. The film market could have contracted by half over the last year, but it didn't, the digital camera market did though.

The digital camera market needs to adjust to market changes, as does film, neither is in a death spiral.
 
So the argument that the movie film business was propping up the still film business wasn't correct. The movie film industry was actually irrelevant.
 
Wow. As much as I loved 55PN, I sure wouldn't pay $6 a pop for a new version. But, there are a lot of folks that would. Niche markets where price is no object are going to be where its at with film.
 
Pickett Wilson said:
So the argument that the movie film business was propping up the still film business wasn't correct. The movie film industry was actually irrelevant.
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There will have been periods when Kodak were struggling to keep above some threshold where they could buy some raw materials cheaper - and then, total volume does count. But in general, no - there will not be that much overlap except in the production line. And the impulse of a modern MBA when facing one high and one low volume product, both struggling, will be to "concentrate on the core business" and ditch the latter, so overall we'd better hope that motion picture and film don't end up too closely bundled within Kodak.
 
To be fair on the Mod, there is nothing wrong with the content of the thread, but the title is scaremongering. Changing the name seems harmless and fairly "hands off" as far as moderation goes.
 
thegman said:
Sure, but at the same time, there are new films coming to market. Kodak 500T is not that new, but I understand that it's not been available ready to shoot in 35mm until now. The Brothers Wright are selling it in 35mm canisters ready to shoot, with remjet removed. Now these are just details, but the point is that a month ago, as far as I know, I could not buy 500T ready to shoot in 35mm, now I can.

Same goes for SilverMax, last year, this was not for sale, and now it is.
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Last summer I bought two short ends of Vision 3 cine stock: 240' of 250D and 230' of 500T, all for $20. It's that cheap because 200' of film = 2:13 minutes of time. Another way to put it is that 200' of cine stock is garbage to motion picture guys. I've rolled my own since the 60s, so I'm only somewhat apprehensive about getting the rem-jet off. However, in Vision 2 and cine Fuji I have 500' of film to experiment with, so I think I can figure it out and not worry about wasting film.

Regional disparities: no retailers will import C-41 chemistry into Canada, so when the kit I have is finished, I'll get it from macodirect.de if I stick with Digibase C-41.

I bought the film here: http://www.certifiedfilm.com/. They're good to deal with, and they'll ship. No connection, other than getting almost free film. I couldn't find The Brothers Wright on line.
 
grainhound said:
Last summer I bought two short ends of Vision 3 cine stock: 240' of 250D and 230' of 500T, all for $20. It's that cheap because 200' of film = 2:13 minutes of time. Another way to put it is that 200' of cine stock is garbage to motion picture guys. I've rolled my own since the 60s, so I'm only somewhat apprehensive about getting the rem-jet off. However, in Vision 2 and cine Fuji I have 500' of film to experiment with, so I think I can figure it out and not worry about wasting film.

Regional disparities: no retailers will import C-41 chemistry into Canada, so when the kit I have is finished, I'll get it from macodirect.de if I stick with Digibase C-41.

I bought the film here: http://www.certifiedfilm.com/. They're good to deal with, and they'll ship. No connection, other than getting almost free film. I couldn't find The Brothers Wright on line.
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They are selling via Etsy.com, just search for kodak 500T there.
 
Not a bad price for colour neg stock, but 5 rolls are double what I paid for 470 feet. I'll continue to roll my own and sort out the rem jet problem. I'd love to know more about their "very custom "Premoval" (patent-pending) process" too.
 
Eric T said:
If Fuji and Kodak eventually stop production of color films, will any niche manufacturer maintain production? Several small manufacturers produce black and white film, but do any make color?
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First of all, both Kodak and Fujifilm recently have clearly said that they will continue to produce color photo film.

And yes, there are other film manufacturers producing color film:

- Agfa-Gevaert, Belgium ( www.agfa.com ) which is the third biggest film manufacturer worldwide behind Kodak and Fuji, and also producing color film

- Impossible Project in Enschede, Netherlands

- InovisCoat in Monheim, Germany www.inoviscoat.de ; they are also producing color film, e.g. the color negative film base for the Impossible films, see here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw4rttFGHiM

They also offer contract coating of color film: If you want a color film, they will make it for you (see their statement on their website); of course you have to invest the money

InovisCoat is the successor company of Agfa Leverkusen. They have the staff and machinery from Agfa Leverkusen.

- Ilford Suisse; they produce a color microfilm. They could make other films, too.
 
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