Thoughts on a recent shooting assignment with film Leicas

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Hello all, I was recently asked by some close friends if I could photographically "cover" the Confirmation of their teenage daughter (you know, Christian church rite, followed by a sit-down Lunch with friends and family). It was held last Sunday.

If any of you are interested, I will share below some thoughts and "lessons learned" of how it went from a photographer's perspective - what worked and what didn't. And, I'll eventually post some of the results once I get the films processed and scanned.

I would also love to hear the experiences of others - amateurs and professionals - who have done similar assignments.

First a little about me: I'm an amateur (hobbyist) photographer, but I've been doing it for about 30 something years, the last 20 something with Leicas, so I'm not totally unexperienced. I don't own, nor have I ever used, a serious digital camera, so that wasn't a possibility for this shoot (more thoughts on digital vs. film below... ...I've been thinking about selling my film Leicas for an Leica M9 this year...)

THE ASSIGNMENT: This was not a paid job, it was a favour to friends. The family were sure that they wanted colour photos. They wanted some coverage of the Church ceremony, and portraits outside the church following the ceremony. They wanted pictures of the Lunch with friends and family (including the food), pictures of their daughter opening her gifts, and some shots of people giving speeches at Lunch. They also wanted a photo shoot with their daughter outdoors after the Lunch, to capture some more portrait shots.

BEFORE THE DAY: I had only about one weeks notice before this Confirmation that I would be "the photographer". As I had never been to a Confirmation before, the first thing I did was to get online and look at websites with Confirmation photos to get some idea of what to expect, the style of photos, some inspiration from professional photographers websites, etc. This was a good idea, as it got my own ideas flowing regarding shots and poses, and that helped me plan what equipment to bring.

Regarding locations, there was the Church interior (Roskilde Domkirke, perhaps Denmark's most important church), the outside of the church, the function room where the lunch would be held (a few kilometers away), and the area outside that. I was already familar with the interiors (dim Church, fairly dim function room), and the areas outside the church, but not the other outside location. So I rode my bicycle over there a couple of days before the event to scout out potential locations for outdoor portraiture.

The weather for the day was predicted to be (and was in fact) cool and breezy with clear sunshine - which, if you know this part of the world means harsh, contrasty, low-angle sunlight with a crystal clear atmosphere (no haze, no clouds). Not very flattering light...

THE EQUIPMENT: I was limited to a small amount of equipment because we don't have a car (I'm on bicycle), and I would have no assistant, and I knew I needed to be mobile for the church shots (inside and outside). On top of that I would be at the event with my three young children, who would be more of a hinderance than a help photographically.

I had a choice between shooting this assignment with my Hasselblad system, or my Leica system (the only systems I have with interchangable lenses). Ideally, I would have had an assistant and used the Leica for the quick moving, spontaneous stuff, and the Hasselblad for the more static portraiture.

But as it was, I settled on two M4-P bodies with C-41 film, one with 100 ISO film, and one with 800 ISO. They have different coloured wrist straps so I could tell them apart. I brought four lenses: 28/2 Summicron, 35/2 Summicron, 50/1.5 C-Sonnar, and 90/2.8 Tele-Elmarit. Plus, a Vivitar 283 flash, and a handheld incident light meter. All these items fit in a small shoulder bag.

ON THE DAY:
(1) Inside the church. We arrived late, the church was packed, but we managed to get seats where I would at least be able to capture the group of teenagers being confirmed as they walked into and out of the church at the beginning and end of the ceremony. On top of that, the church program made it clear that photography was only allowed at certain limited times in the program, and there were many church assistants walking around making sure people stayed in their seats and were "solemn" and quiet. There was no way I was going to get close enough to the front of the church to get a shot of the daughter knealing down before the alter with the priest's hand on her head...

LESSON LEARNED: get there early. Get a good seat.

Regarding light: it was dim inside the church - with ISO 800 it was 1/30 at f/2. I shot mainly with the 35/2 Summicron wide open.

I managed to take a frame or two as the kids walking into and out of the church, but at 1/30th of a second and narrow depth of field, I'm not too hopeful.

PREDICTION: the interior church shots will be a FAILURE 🙁

(2) Outside the church (group portraits and individual portraits). This went better, there was plenty of light, both harsh sunlight and open shade on the shadow side of the church. There were crowds of people vying for position to take the group portraits, but there was plently of time to do so. At ISO 100 I was shooting the 35mm Summicron at 1/500 at f/5.6 in the sun. For the single portraits, I used the 90mm Tele-Elmarit at f/2.8 and the 50mm C-Sonnar at f/2.8. My copy of this lens is optimized for f/1.5and now I'm concerned that my focus may have been off due to focus shift.

PREDICTION: the exterior church shots have a decent chance of SUCCESS

(3) Interior shots at the Luncheon. I used the ISO 800 camera handheld. I used the 35/2 mainly for people, and the 50/1.5 for some shots of the set table and the food. I didn't use the 28mm Summicron at all, but in retrospect I should have used it to capture groups of 3-5 people instead of the 2-3 people that I shot with the 35mm lens.

LESSON LEARNED: vary focal length a bit more next time to get a variety of shots.

The room was fairly bright near the windows, but fairly dim further in. In the dimmer parts I used the ISO 100 camera at f/4 with the Vivitar 283 bounced off the ceiling which was a sort-of cream colour. In retrospect, I should have used the ISO 800 camera for the flash shots as the ceiling was fairly high in some places and I'm not sure if the Vivitar was powerful enough...

PREDICTION: a mixed chance of success...

(4) Outdoor portrait photoshoot after lunch. I used the ISO 100 camera exclusively with the 50mm lens for full-body shots and the 90mm lens for tighter compositions. There was plenty of light, but it was harsh. Spring hasn't really come here yet, so there were bare, leaf-less branches and harsh shadows and harsh backgrounds everywhere.

Plus, it was cool and windy, so my model in her gleaming white dress was cold and unrelaxed. I felt time pressured due to her being cold and uncomfortable. Plus she is shy to begin with...

PREDICTION: a mixed chance of success...



THOUGHTS AFTERWARDS: Well, as you can gather from my ramblings above, I don't have high hopes for this assignment. I just hope that my friends have LOW EXPECTATIONS and aren't too disappointed.

I wondered before and after doing this assignment if having a Leica M9 would have changed anything for me. I would have carried only one body instead of two (for different ISOs). I would have been able (perhaps) to push the ISO on the M9 to 1600 for the dim church interiors. I would have been able to check my flash exposures on the spot for interior shots. I would have been able to check if I was nailing the focus with my 50mm f/1.5 C-Sonnar set at f/2.8. I would have been able to already evaluate the results of the day and already be posting results to you...

(INSTANT UN-GRATIFICATION 😉


ON THE OTHER HAND, the M4-Ps were a pleasure to use, nice and quiet, and carrying two bodies was no big deal and provided the possibility of a back-up camera if one body malfunctioned. Also, C-41 film is very forgiving in exposures, unlike digital. Finally, is waiting for the results SO BAD? What's the rush really? (And I'm around 3000 British Pounds richer for not owning a Leica M9...)

I will post again in a few weeks - once the film has been processed.
 
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For someone who's been shooting Leicas for 30 years, I would expect more confident predictions.

My personal conclusion to such venues is always: "use a DSLR" 🙂
 
This sounds like harder work than a wedding, where you can clear things with both the couple and the priest first. But when I've not been able to get out of shooting a wedding, I've always used Leicas without problems in dim churches or at receptions.

Cheers,

R.
 
For someone who's been shooting Leicas for 30 years, I would expect more confident predictions.

My personal conclusion to such venues is always: "use a DSLR" 🙂

You're probably right about the SLR, but I don't own one (except the Hasselblad).

Perhaps one "thrill" of shooting film over digital is this anticipation and mystery until the results are seen....
 
My guess is that you are anxious/worried but most likely did a lot better than you thought. Shooting for one's own enjoyment is a lot different than doing an "assignment" like this. Definitely the M9 would have been easier because at least you could check yourself on the fly, and you can bump up the ISO as needed. These are 2 big things digital has going for it. But assuming you exposed enough frames to give yourself a better chance at more "keepers," you should be in good shape. Events like this have been photographed for many, many years before the advent of digital. I look forward to the results.
 
You arrive late with three small children on bicycle, and lack any decent access. The main problems do not seem related to type of medium or camera.
 
My personal conclusion to such venues is always: "use a DSLR" 🙂

I hate SLRs with a passion, but they are the most powerful photographic tools and there is just no way around it. You just have to reconcile yourself with the bulk, which unfortunately I cannot do. That is why the only SLRs I use are film ones, a decent bit smaller.

Until the next best thing comes about, they will be the best for this sort of events.
 
You arrive late with three small children on bicycle, and lack any decent access. The main problems do not seem related to type of medium or camera.

You're right. Yes, you're right.

But in my defense, photography was so restricted in the HUGE church, and the alter was so far away no matter what, I'm not sure if sitting up front would have helped...
 
I started out doing weddings second shooting a pro in the early 1980's. Two Rolleiflex cameras a 3,5F loaded with 160 and a 2,8E with 400. Church interiors can vary a little most of the time in the summer in the UK 1/30 ƒ2,8 will get you something.
Rarely (if ever) use flash inside with exception some closer shots after ceremony (register etc)
Outside is easier just get them into open shade and make sure they aren't looking into the sun if you can't use open shade backlight and use flash to fill in a little.

If you have to do this again take a roll inside and outside the church the week before, get a good idea of the places you'll be able to use, arrive at the church at least an hour before the start, take pictures of the flowers and church when empty–they are nice to put at the start of the album and Auntie Ethel spent all Friday doing the flowers...
 
I used my M6 the other day and was shocked at how loud 1/250 is, making me think the M9 is not so loud after all. If distance from the subject is a problem I reckon ISO 800 is close to the limit with the M9, as you will want to crop. Today I photographed a lecturer at f2.8 1/60 ISO 800 and because of digital I was able to take lots of shots. Out of 15 I got two where the lecturer's facial expression was pleasing and her motion stopped by 1/60s, and one of those was good. I would have a monopod for a planned session, even in a tightly packed church. The Leicas allow for the multiple shots in these situations without getting so many glares From others nearby. I have tried my X100 but haven't had as good results as with the M9. I look forward to seeing your pictures.
 
I think since you were doing it unpaid your friends did very well and should be pleased with what they get, Richard 1600 iso is no probs with an M9 and from my experience you really need 1/160 1/200 for nice sharp head shots. These kind of events are where a 5d or Nikon equivalent with a 28-105 are much easier but maybe not as much fun!
 
There are events when any kind of photography balances on a border of ruining atmosphere. We had similar event at last Christmas. Instead of allowing parents to jump around and clicking away (and flashing, too!) we settled that one dad will be only person taking pictures.

As for me, I kind of missed looking at through finder but also enjoyed being spectator and not taking pictures (at very restrictive position, anyway, and in nearly darkness without flash).

Sometimes obstacles are strong...even stronger than I am. And that teaches a lot.
 
Your years of experience will pay off.
It will be better than you imagine.
I once did a graduation Class.
i became ill during the later half..
Unable to focus my Nikon, i used the depth of field
setting distance manually.
Well i wait for first test print at Lab.
It is so out of focus, i collapse into nearest chair.
Lab tech looks at me and says "What's wrong?"
He added " Print is for color balance only, we'll focus later.."
I think my first unrecorded heart attack.
The shots were great and very sharp.
Personally when it's a big important shoot,
do a few test shots around the area.
Choose between being a good father or photographer.
I personally never use Leica when there are time and position problems.
One needs speed with modern events!
Everybody has no patience. None!
Post your images.I'm sure you done good.
 
Your years of experience will pay off.
It will be better than you imagine.
I once did a graduation Class.
i became ill during the later half..
Unable to focus my Nikon, i used the depth of field
setting distance manually.
Well i wait for first test print at Lab.
It is so out of focus, i collapse into nearest chair.
Lab tech looks at me and says "What's wrong?"
He added " Print is for color balance only, we'll focus later.."
I think my first unrecorded heart attack.
The shots were great and very sharp.
Personally when it's a big important shoot,
do a few test shots around the area.
Choose between being a good father or photographer.
I personally never use Leica when there are time and position problems.
One needs speed with modern events!
Everybody has no patience. None!
Post your images.I'm sure you done good.

Great post!
 
I think since you were doing it unpaid your friends did very well and should be pleased with what they get, Richard 1600 iso is no probs with an M9 and from my experience you really need 1/160 1/200 for nice sharp head shots. These kind of events are where a 5d or Nikon equivalent with a 28-105 are much easier but maybe not as much fun!

Thanks Fraser. I agree with the shutter speed you recommend for moving heads. I'm improving my sharpening and noise reduction skills in Lightroom. I'v been very happy with my black and white with ISO 1600. I will go up there for colour next time.

A couple of years ago my good friend was giving his inaugural lecture after being appointed a full professor. I had forgotten about this. Fortunately I had with me at work the 1.5 C Sonnar 50 on an M5, but unfortunately, only Rollei Retro 100, four shots in. I took ove 20 shots with the camera resting on the railing of the front row seats. I used mostly 1/4s wide open and tried a couple at f2 1/2s and a few at 1/8s and 1/15s. There was one that stood out, taken at 1/4s. I consider 1/60s a luxury but I need volume to ensure a good shot. Sometimes the concentration required to look for a moment of stillness, demanded by technical limitations, will actually provide a better shot. I couldn't fire off 20 shots with an SLR in these situations.
 
Your years of experience will pay off.
It will be better than you imagine.

Thank you for your kind post Leicapixie. I hope you're right.


Choose between being a good father or photographer.

Yes, this was something I needed to balance on the day. Thinking about things more, if the church shots don't turn out well, it won't be the end of the world.

I just want a couple of the portraits to be fine...
 
Only 2 comments:

1) Sometimes you need to just ignore what they think they want. I would definitely have brought some 1600 B&W film for inside shots and used it alongside colour in the other body. Many people don't like the sound of B&W - until you show them.

2) Monopod may have helped for the 1/30 shots - or allowed you to go 1/8 possibly and enabled you to stop down the lens.
 
that was a great write up, thanks for sharing and i hope your photos turned out better than you expected
i agree with the SLR comments, as well, if you're not in full control of your shooting positions, that's what zoom lenses for, if you're not in control of lighting, that's what high ISO is for.
 
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