Rob-F
Likes Leicas
I have bought two point-n-shoots with zoom lenses having a 28mm-to-whatever equivalent: LeicaSonic D-Lux 3 and Fuji X10. And I have two with a 24-to-something equivalent: LeicaSonic D-Lux 4 and D-Lux 6. I think it's time that someone made a dedicated wide angle P&S, perhaps a 20-40mm or a 20-50mm; or an 18-40mm or 15-35mm.
Since the widest of these would be packing a lot of detail into a small sensor, the sensor should probably not be too small. Something the size of the one in the Fuji X-10 series might be large enough. The camera would then probably not be pocket size, but could still be small enough to be handy to have along on a hike, or a walk in town.
Anyone else feel the need for this?
Since the widest of these would be packing a lot of detail into a small sensor, the sensor should probably not be too small. Something the size of the one in the Fuji X-10 series might be large enough. The camera would then probably not be pocket size, but could still be small enough to be handy to have along on a hike, or a walk in town.
Anyone else feel the need for this?
kuuan
loves old lenses
I do! Actually just yesterday a photography friend had talked to me about that very same wish.
In the late 90s I had bought a compact zoom 35mm film camera, that time, at the wide end, most had started at around 35mm. I had only found two models that had started at 28mm, one of which I bought. Nowadays 28mm is the standard and 24mm, at the wide end, is available. Now I hope and believe that it won't take all that long before cameras similar to your wish will be offered, and that the first producer who does will have good success
In the late 90s I had bought a compact zoom 35mm film camera, that time, at the wide end, most had started at around 35mm. I had only found two models that had started at 28mm, one of which I bought. Nowadays 28mm is the standard and 24mm, at the wide end, is available. Now I hope and believe that it won't take all that long before cameras similar to your wish will be offered, and that the first producer who does will have good success
kbg32
neo-romanticist
The Ricoh GR/ll is a great camera. Unfortunately, the 21mm conversion lens is quite large and does not lend itself to be pocketable with it attached.
JChrome
Street Worker
Voigtlander Bess R4M with a 21mm lens (take your pic).
If you want smaller - Bessa L with an external viewfinder.
If you want smaller - Bessa L with an external viewfinder.
FrankS
Registered User
What you want is a medium format wide angle point and shoot! 
f16sunshine
Moderator
Ii have the Fuji XA1 wih Bayer Sensor. The XM1 is it's twin brother with Xtrans2 sensor.
This camera is tiny. Smaller than the X100. Body dimentions about the same as the x10/20/30.
It has an articulating screen which is great for wide angle use. After using the ricoh GR for a year now I prefer LCD screens for wide angle compositions vs OVF's or EVF's,
It's like a ground glass in use. Very handy when trying to decide how much to include rather than how much to exclude with a narrower FOV.
The Fuji's I mention are not P+S but... you get a small camera with a big apsc sensor.
Samyang has some interesting wide angle lenses including a f2/12mm that I have seen very, very nice images from.
Of course Fuji lenses we all know about. Niether would be pocketable but rather just compact.
As pocketable cameras go. I would say that the Sony RX100 model with 24mm on the wide end is going to be the widest pocket camera.
Have you tried a Ricoh GR? It's a 28mm equiv. The best of the pocketable apsc cameras. (although there are only a few to be best of ).
As Kieth metions you can attach a 21mm conversion lens. It becomes large and unwieldy to handle as the body of the camera is too small for such an attachment (yes my opionion only).
There is nothing wider available just yet in the digital P+S category.
This camera is tiny. Smaller than the X100. Body dimentions about the same as the x10/20/30.
It has an articulating screen which is great for wide angle use. After using the ricoh GR for a year now I prefer LCD screens for wide angle compositions vs OVF's or EVF's,
It's like a ground glass in use. Very handy when trying to decide how much to include rather than how much to exclude with a narrower FOV.
The Fuji's I mention are not P+S but... you get a small camera with a big apsc sensor.
Samyang has some interesting wide angle lenses including a f2/12mm that I have seen very, very nice images from.
Of course Fuji lenses we all know about. Niether would be pocketable but rather just compact.
As pocketable cameras go. I would say that the Sony RX100 model with 24mm on the wide end is going to be the widest pocket camera.
Have you tried a Ricoh GR? It's a 28mm equiv. The best of the pocketable apsc cameras. (although there are only a few to be best of
).As Kieth metions you can attach a 21mm conversion lens. It becomes large and unwieldy to handle as the body of the camera is too small for such an attachment (yes my opionion only).
There is nothing wider available just yet in the digital P+S category.