migtex
Don't eXchange Freedom!
I'm not from UK nor I live there (and know, not even go there in vacations, sry lads ) but I think the UK members may like to sign it...
only UK can apply.
http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/Photorestrict/#detail
only UK can apply.
http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/Photorestrict/#detail
sweathog
Well-known
Done and done.
Thank you for sharing this. I'm sure it would've popped up on my radar sooner or later, but I've now shared this with my friends.
Thank you for sharing this. I'm sure it would've popped up on my radar sooner or later, but I've now shared this with my friends.
Yammerman
Well-known
Done and passed on. It made me listen to Small Axe by Bob Marley so double the goodness.
migtex
Don't eXchange Freedom!
Glad it was useful!
j_fletcher
Member
thanks for the heads up on that, i've signed up just now.
Sparrow
Veteran
I wonder if MI5 started that petition to get a comprehensive list of the dissidents’ address… to match up with the photos they took at that demo the other day?
Now where did I put my foil hat…
Now where did I put my foil hat…
Roger Hicks
Veteran
I wonder if MI5 started that petition to get a comprehensive list of the dissidents’ address… to match up with the photos they took at that demo the other day?
Now where did I put my foil hat…
Dear Stewart,
You have presumably not heard about the new aluminium-foil-eating bacterium, jointly developed by MI5, KGB, CIA and Mossad, which dissolves THE ONLY PROTECTION WE HAVE!!!!!!!!!
Seriously: I've signed it too.
Tashi Delek,
R.
Sparrow
Veteran
Dear Stewart,
You have presumably not heard about the new aluminium-foil-eating bacterium, jointly developed by MI5, KGB, CIA and Mossad, which dissolves THE ONLY PROTECTION WE HAVE!!!!!!!!!
Seriously: I've signed it too.
Tashi Delek,
R.
I thought it was just a rumour, but now you’ve confirmed it’s existence…
Seriously; I did not
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wolves3012
Veteran
Done! It's ridiculous, what if you unintentionally include a Police officer etc in a photo?
migtex
Don't eXchange Freedom!
It's up to the Police to decide if it was.. aahr unintentionally....Done! It's ridiculous, what if you unintentionally include a Police officer etc in a photo?
Roger Hicks
Veteran
It's up to the Police to decide if it was.. aahr unintentionally....
WE NEVER MAKE MISTAKES
(c) Aleksandr Solzhenityn, Wen Jiabao, and others.
Tashi Delek,
R.
wolves3012
Veteran
I have more than enough experience of the british Police to know if I'd trust them with that discretion - not a chance!It's up to the Police to decide if it was.. aahr unintentionally....
ClaremontPhoto
Jon Claremont
It's some sort of spoof that been doing the rounds for a year or more.
notturtle
Well-known
There are some fantastic policemen and women out there. Unfortunately there are also a few at the opposite end of the spectrum in uniform. I don't want to end up in court before someone is sensible enough to apply discretion. Reminds me of the time I had a 20 minute (polite) interview, ID check etc when photographing a famous building in London using an Ebony 5x4 on a large tripod, dark cloth, full kit bag etc. Meanwhile hundreds of other people were machine gunning the same building with their digital cameras without the slightest interference. After checking me, they did not stop and search a single one, despite standing there taking group photos, shots of the building etc right in front of the plods. I guess they looked like tourists...
Could my photo have been used to plan a terrorist attack? Possibly, but no more so than the 10,000 tourist shots taken that day. Under the new law could that leave me vulnerable to prosecution? I dont know, but I am worried that all it takes is a snotty policeman who wants to flex his ego, the slightest whiff of irritation from the photographer who has been stopped for the third time that day and the recipe is ready for a problem.
I would venture to guess that the total number of people caught undertaking hostile surveillance against London buildings as part of a terrorist plot in the last five years is zero.
Could my photo have been used to plan a terrorist attack? Possibly, but no more so than the 10,000 tourist shots taken that day. Under the new law could that leave me vulnerable to prosecution? I dont know, but I am worried that all it takes is a snotty policeman who wants to flex his ego, the slightest whiff of irritation from the photographer who has been stopped for the third time that day and the recipe is ready for a problem.
I would venture to guess that the total number of people caught undertaking hostile surveillance against London buildings as part of a terrorist plot in the last five years is zero.
notturtle
Well-known
the fundamental flaw in the law is the 'could be used for terrorist purposes'. under that description, most of the photos on official web pages could fall foul! most tourist shots could too. There is no requirement for them to prove any kind of intent, which is a major worry. The problem here is that the law would support the prosecution of an unwitting photographer because of the potential of the image, rather than the intent of the person taking it. And we are supposed to be happy that our safety net is 'police discretion....' I would rather that my safety net was the LAW so I do not have to rely on people liking me, feeling sorry for me, or deciding to protect me out of the goodness of their heart because 'they believe in me.' This law marks a fundamental shift away from the principle of common law to which so much stability and equality in Britain can be attributed. It has also maintained the appropriate balance between the state and the people it is accountable to. The current crop of politicians and officials seem to have forgotten that they are accountable to us and NOT the other way round.
I urge you to read a book called the Abolition of Liberty. Its a very interesting and well researched read that looks into what caused all of this to start moving in the current direction pre 911. The interesting this is that it was written by a hard line left winger yet his views and explanations make it clear that liberty is a universal apolitical concept. He reserves most of his criticism for New Labour's less publicised agendas and initiatives which amout to the subversion of the state aparatus.
I urge you to read a book called the Abolition of Liberty. Its a very interesting and well researched read that looks into what caused all of this to start moving in the current direction pre 911. The interesting this is that it was written by a hard line left winger yet his views and explanations make it clear that liberty is a universal apolitical concept. He reserves most of his criticism for New Labour's less publicised agendas and initiatives which amout to the subversion of the state aparatus.
Kevin
Rainbow Bridge
All levels and sectors of the UK government, including the police, have been infiltrated by a leadership "charity" called "Common Purpose".
Its goal is to subvert English sovereignty and prepare it for full absorption into the EU.
Former naval officer Brian Gerrish has been following some of the rather strange coincidences that are happening in plain view THROUGHOUT communities in the UK.
There's a great video on youtube that describes the evidence in depth.
Its goal is to subvert English sovereignty and prepare it for full absorption into the EU.
Former naval officer Brian Gerrish has been following some of the rather strange coincidences that are happening in plain view THROUGHOUT communities in the UK.
There's a great video on youtube that describes the evidence in depth.
John Robertson
Well-known
Done and passed on.!
Whether Big Broon will listen is another matter, he is not noted for doing that!:bang:
Whether Big Broon will listen is another matter, he is not noted for doing that!:bang:
btgc
Veteran
Governments are treating us like a slaves, which we are, in modern sense.
John Robertson
Well-known
George Orwell got is horribly correct, he just got the year wrong,Governments are treating us like a slaves, which we are, in modern sense.
not 1984, but 2009.
Roger Hicks
Veteran
Wow! One or two people are indeed donning their tinfoil helmets! (Not you, John.)
Cheers,
R.
Cheers,
R.
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