Unusual artifacts

[oftheherd]

Recently I decided to check the accuracy of my turret finder on my Kiev 4am. I used some badly out of date Ritz 200 ISO film, not being worried about the quality of the film, but the accuracy of the viewfinder. I was surprised at how accurate it was. I also found I need to be sure it is not loose or wiggling so it is looking forward the same way the camera is. Otherwise, it will show the right angles, but not be centered.

Anyone figured out the best way to do that?

However, I noticed a very unusual thing when I got the film back. Two frames have a strange artifact. They are attached. In one case there is a blank spot at the edge of the frame. On the other, there is an area that seems to match, but it is just sort of blurred.

It doesn't appear to be a framing issue as I counted sprocet holes and the are the correct eight leading into and out of the suspect frames. The area isn't so well defined you might suspect something fell in there. It isn't development. The areas on the edge of the film have proper development as do the other areas of the film.

It isn't a shutter problem the best I can determine, as the Kiev is a vertical traveling shutter, not horizontal.

Anybody have any ideas.

 

[Joao]

Strange, at first glance they look like scanning artifacts, but if they are present in the negatives, this hypothesis can be ruled out. Do these bands also cover the sprocket area ?
Regards
Joao

 

[oftheherd]

Sorry, right after posting the above, my wife decided we should go to the Korean sauna. I don't usually say no to that.

No, the bands don't extend into the sprocket holes. The film preprinted information is where it should be.

Anybody else have an opinion or experience that would explain this?

 

[xayraa33]

I had something similar happen on film when one of the shutter ribbons gave up the ghost on a Kiev 3a.

 

[oftheherd]

Thanks xayraa33. I feel better now. 😀

I hope not but if so at least I know what has to be fixed. I can use the KSS and some of Rubens advice to work on it.

 

[fidget]

I think that you are experiencing the infamous overlapping frames.
There are plenty of posts here about that, and almost as many opinions on what the cause may be. There are even cures for it.
The overlapping frames eventually did it for me. I could never trust them (two did it) again.
Good luck with yours. Check out the posts already on this forum.

 

[oftheherd]

A single overlapped frame it is. On looking back, I realized that the CVS had mixed up the sequence of the frames on the CD. I had noticed it but for some reason it just didn't connect to the two frames I mentioned since they are the only two that were affected by the problem.

I had always thought that the problem would show up as a qestion of separation between films, not an overlap. I think that is what threw me off. Thanks for everyone who looked and offered suggestions.