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I came across these today, three rolls of 127 colour expired in 1976 and one roll of black and white expired in 1966.



Has anyone had any success using film of this age? I'm thinking I might give the black and white a go but I really don't think the colour will do anything.

However I am excited that I now have 4 extra 127 reels I can use for trimming and respooling 120 film, I may even be able to use the backing paper. :)
 
MikeMGB said:
I came across these today, three rolls of 127 colour expired in 1976 and one roll of black and white expired in 1966.



Has anyone had any success using film of this age? I'm thinking I might give the black and white a go but I really don't think the colour will do anything.

However I am excited that I now have 4 extra 127 reels I can use for trimming and respooling 120 film, I may even be able to use the backing paper. :)
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Troy Walters has a site on Flickr dedicated to extremely expired film.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/51853869@N08/
 
Keith rescued some exposed b/w film much older than that some while back. I don't recall any threads on color though. Neither the color nor the b/w are likely to give great results I should think. If you try, I hope your will share your methods and results.
 
That's not antique. This is antique. I'm debating selling them but damn they look so nice and vintage-y.

Doubt they could still be used.

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oftheherd said:
Keith rescued some exposed b/w film much older than that some while back. I don't recall any threads on color though. Neither the color nor the b/w are likely to give great results I should think. If you try, I hope your will share your methods and results.
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Thank you, along with this I found 2 rolls of probably 1950s exposed film that I intend to process, I'm doing a lot of research to figure out the best way to go about this.

I'm not expecting great results, it's just something I want to do. :)

 
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I can't answer your question but that Kodak Verichrome Pan image you posted sure brings back a lot of memories. That is the film I used to shoot back in the 1950's when I first started taking pictures. My Brownie Holiday camera used Size 127. I used Verichrome Pan for many years until I switched to Tri-X in the 1970's when I bought my first SLR.
 
ornate_wrasse said:
I can't answer your question but that Kodak Verichrome Pan image you posted sure brings back a lot of memories. That is the film I used to shoot back in the 1950's when I first started taking pictures. My Brownie Holiday camera used Size 127. I used Verichrome Pan for many years until I switched to Tri-X in the 1970's when I bought my first SLR.
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I took this one apart today and fixed a sticky shutter, I intend to modify some 120 film and use it. :)



My first camera in 1974 was my Mother's Brownie 127, she developed a monster when she gave it to me, I've been clicking shutters since then.
 
Well, technically, anything over twenty-five years old is considered antique, at least when it comes to automobiles.

One method used by some folks I know who develop old film is to reduce the ISO a stop for every ten years of age since expiry date.

Fogging though could be a problem.

PF
 
farlymac said:
Well, technically, anything over twenty-five years old is considered antique, at least when it comes to automobiles.

One method used by some folks I know who develop old film is to reduce the ISO a stop for every ten years of age since expiry date.

Fogging though could be a problem.

PF
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Yeah, I have 2 antique cars, I'm just a Luddite. :)

That's actually a very good start, I'll shoot one of the colour films then see if I can push it by four stops and see what comes out.

I'm also wondering about processing one of the colour flms in black and white chemistry, I guess I'll try one in each and see what works.
 
This is a photo from an unused "who-knows-how-old" roll of film that was in a Russian camera. Because I didn't know what it was, I shot it at 100. All the shots that came out were like this or worse.
Good luck!

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How the heck are they developing Vivian Maier's rolls then?

She left loads of color and bw, undeveloped.

I tried developing some color rolls from the 90's once, even with a good strong push, there was hardly a visible negative left to scan, mostly just fog. (Eastern European brand though).
 
The Verichrome Pan might still be good enough to use, if it has been in cool storage - this was soft and uncritical low speed film to start with. I used the last bits of mine about 15 years after expiration, and it had no issues other than increased base fog.
 
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Stash of 126 film. The Kodachrome expired in 1967. The Verichrome Pan in 1983. But, I've never shot any of it... :bang:
 
That Fotomat 127 is probably C22 film, and will have to be developed as black and white today. Verichrome Pan is noted for having a very long shelf life, fixing it for longer than usual should eliminate some of the base fog.
 
Greyscale said:
That Fotomat 127 is probably C22 film, and will have to be developed as black and white today. Verichrome Pan is noted for having a very long shelf life, fixing it for longer than usual should eliminate some of the base fog.
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I just opened one of the Fotomax and there is nothing on the box or roll listing the developing process, C-22 does seem most likely.

I'm going to run a roll today and process it in black and white chemicals and see what I get.
 
Link to an album of shots done with an Olympus XA on very old Kodak 100 VR film. Some were from the original owner (the first 14 on the roll), and the rest were mine. The latent images held up pretty good, considering the storage condition of the camera. It was commercially developed at box speed.

https://flic.kr/s/aHskkzqjqD

PF
 
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