Bruno Gracia
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Hi there!
I'm going to print my first wet copy and need some help!
Purchased a V35 with a VC color head but don't know nothing about this.
I've bought a Ilford RC IV Multigrade papers, do You know what values with the Y/M/G filters should I chose?
And I don't have the red filter, is it important?
And the last.. how many solution I have to put in the tray?
Many many many thanks guys.
I'm going to print my first wet copy and need some help!
Purchased a V35 with a VC color head but don't know nothing about this.
I've bought a Ilford RC IV Multigrade papers, do You know what values with the Y/M/G filters should I chose?
And I don't have the red filter, is it important?
And the last.. how many solution I have to put in the tray?
Many many many thanks guys.
maddoc
... likes film again.
Welcome to the "dark side" of printing your own photos! 
When I was starting I had the same questions. I used initially a Durst M605 with CL66 color head and dialed in the filter values provided by Ilford. In this PDF-file also settings for a V35 are given.
However, depending on the age of the enlarger the filter dye can fade so you would have to make your own experiments to determine the optimal values. I was to layy to do that and bought the Ilford Multigrade filter-set with filters to be put into the filter-drawer of my BW enlarger head (that I also happen to have) and when buying a smaller 35 LPL enlarger later I bought the same filter together with a filter-holder to be mounted below the enlarging lens. This set-up limits the size of the enlarger lens to be used but worked in my case.
You will need a red-filter for positioning of the paper or easel before making the print.
For prints up to size of A4 I use 1 liter of solution in my trays (don`t remember the size) but the height of the liquids is about 2 cm, enough to get even development and fixing.
Enjoy your darkroom work, it is fun!
When I was starting I had the same questions. I used initially a Durst M605 with CL66 color head and dialed in the filter values provided by Ilford. In this PDF-file also settings for a V35 are given. However, depending on the age of the enlarger the filter dye can fade so you would have to make your own experiments to determine the optimal values. I was to layy to do that and bought the Ilford Multigrade filter-set with filters to be put into the filter-drawer of my BW enlarger head (that I also happen to have) and when buying a smaller 35 LPL enlarger later I bought the same filter together with a filter-holder to be mounted below the enlarging lens. This set-up limits the size of the enlarger lens to be used but worked in my case.
You will need a red-filter for positioning of the paper or easel before making the print.
For prints up to size of A4 I use 1 liter of solution in my trays (don`t remember the size) but the height of the liquids is about 2 cm, enough to get even development and fixing.
Enjoy your darkroom work, it is fun!
Bruno Gracia
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Thank You very much!
Very useful!
I've tried and the paper came out black! Closing the lens 5.6, with the values ilford gaves for the v35 and trying 2-4-6-8-10-12-14 secs with proof, I'm doing something wrong! What could be?
Very useful!
I've tried and the paper came out black! Closing the lens 5.6, with the values ilford gaves for the v35 and trying 2-4-6-8-10-12-14 secs with proof, I'm doing something wrong! What could be?
maddoc
... likes film again.
As a starting point, for a print roughly in A4 size and a properly (standard) dense film-strip and grade 2 I usually expose at f/8.0 for about 8s. Developing about 1 minute, 30s stop, and 1 minute fix (RC paper).
If it is totally black than the paper was exposed to light a some other point. You really need a proper red-light in your dark-room set-up (not to close to the place where you handle the paper) and a red-filter in your enlarger to position the easel correctly.
If it is totally black than the paper was exposed to light a some other point. You really need a proper red-light in your dark-room set-up (not to close to the place where you handle the paper) and a red-filter in your enlarger to position the easel correctly.
Bruno Gracia
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Should I check for single or double filters in the ilford information? Maybe I have to stop down f11?
And the grade in the sheet? If the paper is multigrade IV, doesn't matter if I chose the filters for grade 3 or I have to put the right numbers for IV?
I have a red lamp, DUNKO the brand, the guy told me is a professional thing.
And the grade in the sheet? If the paper is multigrade IV, doesn't matter if I chose the filters for grade 3 or I have to put the right numbers for IV?
I have a red lamp, DUNKO the brand, the guy told me is a professional thing.
Bruno Gracia
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maddoc
... likes film again.
For your V35 I would try dual-color filter settings as reommended in Ilford`s PDF manual and starting from f/11 is also not a bad idea.
One more point, for proper focus you should use a grain-magnifier and put a sheet of film of the same thickness into the easel when adjusting focus. You do this a maximum aperture of your lens and without red-filter. Then, before changing to the paper you want to expose, close the aperture to the desired value and put a red-filter in front of the lens. Then change paper.
One more point, for proper focus you should use a grain-magnifier and put a sheet of film of the same thickness into the easel when adjusting focus. You do this a maximum aperture of your lens and without red-filter. Then, before changing to the paper you want to expose, close the aperture to the desired value and put a red-filter in front of the lens. Then change paper.
maddoc
... likes film again.
Ilford multigrade iv is the type of RC paper not the grade! You still need to select the desired grade by the filters!
Ljós
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Great tips from maddoc here. About the black paper: did you buy the paper new, can you be sure that it has not been exposed to light?
Bruno Gracia
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Thanks maddoc! I can't find the red filter which attach to my enlarger!
Ljós, Brand new from the store.
Ljós, Brand new from the store.
maddoc
... likes film again.
Hm ... such a red-filter is essential to work with the enlarger however your enlarger does not have one. I just found this valuable information online, it should help you.
http://www.bonavolta.ch/hobby/en/photo/v35.htm
http://www.bonavolta.ch/hobby/en/photo/v35.htm
Bruno Gracia
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I had the same, thanks!
Will try to find one.
Now I have to set up the AF, maybe with it I can work meanwhile I wait for the filter!
I made my first print!!
15 sec at f11!!
Wooooow this is magical!
I'm going to sleep, here in Spain is 4:30!
Thank You very much for your kind help, I will ask much more for sure next days!
Will try to find one.
Now I have to set up the AF, maybe with it I can work meanwhile I wait for the filter!
I made my first print!!
15 sec at f11!!
Wooooow this is magical!
I'm going to sleep, here in Spain is 4:30!
Thank You very much for your kind help, I will ask much more for sure next days!
maddoc
... likes film again.
Great!! .. and congratulations!! Pure magic, isn`t it? Show some prints soon but don`t forget to sleep.
Show some prints soon but don`t forget to sleep. I had the same, thanks!
Will try to find one.
Now I have to set up the AF, maybe with it I can work meanwhile I wait for the filter!
I made my first print!!
15 sec at f11!!
Wooooow this is magical!
I'm going to sleep, here in Spain is 4:30!
Thank You very much for your kind help, I will ask much more for sure next days!
mbisc
Silver Halide User
I had the same, thanks!
Will try to find one.
Now I have to set up the AF, maybe with it I can work meanwhile I wait for the filter!
I made my first print!!
15 sec at f11!!
Wooooow this is magical!
I'm going to sleep, here in Spain is 4:30!
Thank You very much for your kind help, I will ask much more for sure next days!
Awesome - congrats ! Welcome to the dark side !
Ljós
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Well done! Yup, seeing the print develop and appear magically from the white paper, that never gets old.
Greetings, Ljós
Greetings, Ljós
Bruno Gracia
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wow, lot of work but soooo funny!!
I have to learn how to use properly the easel and I need to aligne the head, but satisfied:
Wet Print, first attempting! by Bruno Gracia, on Flickr
I have to learn how to use properly the easel and I need to aligne the head, but satisfied:
Wet Print, first attempting! by Bruno Gracia, on FlickrSayCheese
Established
Hi Bruno,
Congrats on the new enlarger. I'll bet your awesome images are going to look beautiful once printed in the darkroom!
By the way, while my own enlarger has a red filter i lamost never use it. I use to set everything up with an old piece of paper in the easel and then i turn off the enlarger. I take the paper out of its box only seconds before exposure. So i don't think the red filter is all that important, you can easily work without one.
Regards, Klaus
Congrats on the new enlarger. I'll bet your awesome images are going to look beautiful once printed in the darkroom!
By the way, while my own enlarger has a red filter i lamost never use it. I use to set everything up with an old piece of paper in the easel and then i turn off the enlarger. I take the paper out of its box only seconds before exposure. So i don't think the red filter is all that important, you can easily work without one.
Regards, Klaus
Bruno Gracia
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ey Klaus thanks!
Could You share your paper method? is like a red transparent one which the childs use in the school?
Could You share your paper method? is like a red transparent one which the childs use in the school?
SayCheese
Established
Bruno,
I'm sorry if I confused you with my last post. No fancy trick, it's just that I don't take the positive paper out of its light tight box until the actual exposure happens. No printing paper under the enlarger, so there's no red filter required. I set everything up with a random piece of white paper of equal thickness in the easel. After this I turn of the enlarger, set the timer and replace the material in the easel with my printing paper. Of course you've got to take care not to move anything, a heavy easel with some gum under the board will help.
HTH, Klaus
I'm sorry if I confused you with my last post. No fancy trick, it's just that I don't take the positive paper out of its light tight box until the actual exposure happens. No printing paper under the enlarger, so there's no red filter required. I set everything up with a random piece of white paper of equal thickness in the easel. After this I turn of the enlarger, set the timer and replace the material in the easel with my printing paper. Of course you've got to take care not to move anything, a heavy easel with some gum under the board will help.
HTH, Klaus
presspass
filmshooter
Just a quick question - is it a VC head or a color head? If it's a VC head, and Leica did make these for the V35, then you just pick the paper grade. If it's a color head, then you have to follow the instructions above.