Arvay
Obscurant
Yesterday I came across the following problem.
I was examining M3 and put on my adapter to check the frames. It was fine but I couldn't take it off after. This was in a shop and there is a man who repair the technics. He was busy with my adapter for 15 minutes or so.
I was told after that CV adapters will never fit M3 and M4 as they have a kind of different bayonet mount.
Is this true?
Another question: will CV adapter fit MP or M6?
Thanks for answering.
I was examining M3 and put on my adapter to check the frames. It was fine but I couldn't take it off after. This was in a shop and there is a man who repair the technics. He was busy with my adapter for 15 minutes or so.
I was told after that CV adapters will never fit M3 and M4 as they have a kind of different bayonet mount.
Is this true?
Another question: will CV adapter fit MP or M6?
Thanks for answering.
oscroft
Veteran
I've been using them on my M6 for some time now - they work fine. I've never heard of them not working on an M3 or M4.Another question: will CV adapter fit MP or M6?
ClaremontPhoto
Jon Claremont
It sounds unlikely to me that the Voigtlander adaptor won't fit certain Leicas.
Shops like to make excuses and blame the customer sometimes.
A minilab messed up some scans of mine, and then said it was because I was cross processing film. Ludicrous, and I told them so. But with most people they would have got away with it.
Shops like to make excuses and blame the customer sometimes.
A minilab messed up some scans of mine, and then said it was because I was cross processing film. Ludicrous, and I told them so. But with most people they would have got away with it.
fstop
Lurker
I have used CV adapters on M4-P, M7 and MP with no problem at all.Arvay said:Another question: will CV adapter fit MP or M6?
MRohlfing
Well-known
I have several CV adapters and use them on my M2 and R3A without any problems.
Michael
Michael
alternatve
Well-known
What rubbish. The tech at the shop can't even detach a M to LTM adapter?
Assuming all is well with the adapter, use the base of the plastic adapter holder to pull it off while depressing the bayonet release catch. There is two lugs placed to twist the adapter off. Alternatively, you can mount a LTM lens on it and twist the lens and adapter off, again while depressing the bayonet release.
Come to think of it, even geniune Leica made adapters can't be taken out my hand, or are very hard to do so.
Samuel
Assuming all is well with the adapter, use the base of the plastic adapter holder to pull it off while depressing the bayonet release catch. There is two lugs placed to twist the adapter off. Alternatively, you can mount a LTM lens on it and twist the lens and adapter off, again while depressing the bayonet release.
Come to think of it, even geniune Leica made adapters can't be taken out my hand, or are very hard to do so.
Samuel
oscroft
Veteran
Ah, just read the reply from alternatve - did you put the adapter on without a lens? If so, then yes, it's really hard to get off just by hand (from any M - not just M3/M4). I'd be very wary of buying from a dealer who (a) doesn't know how to get an adapter off, and (b) lies about it.I was examining M3 and put on my adapter to check the frames. It was fine but I couldn't take it off after. This was in a shop and there is a man who repair the technics. He was busy with my adapter for 15 minutes or so.
Blank288
Established
Yesterday night I read an old article about the leica M5 in a Dutch magazine, where a trick was mentioned which I didn't know before to remove a M-m39 adapter from an M-body.
On the back side of the old style back lens covers there are three small 'protrusions' which should fit into the notches in the outer ring of the adapter.
I've always been curious why the adapter rim isn't just round, and this indeed appeared to be the answer. I tried it with an old cap and a Chinese adapter and it works fine.
On the back side of the old style back lens covers there are three small 'protrusions' which should fit into the notches in the outer ring of the adapter.
I've always been curious why the adapter rim isn't just round, and this indeed appeared to be the answer. I tried it with an old cap and a Chinese adapter and it works fine.
aniMal
Well-known
I remember having had something like that problem once, and I have been repairing cameras including Ms when needed...
I think it was some kind of canon-adapter, anyway the reason why it stuck slightly was that it was not machined to the best tolerances. Therefore it jammed slightly, but not more than that I could get it off by using the optics for it...
I think it was some kind of canon-adapter, anyway the reason why it stuck slightly was that it was not machined to the best tolerances. Therefore it jammed slightly, but not more than that I could get it off by using the optics for it...
Arvay
Obscurant
oscroft said:Ah, just read the reply from alternatve - did you put the adapter on without a lens? If so, then yes, it's really hard to get off just by hand (from any M - not just M3/M4). I'd be very wary of buying from a dealer who (a) doesn't know how to get an adapter off, and (b) lies about it.
No, firstly i was with the lens, but taking the lens off and pressing the button, the adapter went two or three mm to the "detach point" and freezed. And the lens went forward unscrewing from adapter...Nothing made the adapter went out.
Arvay
Obscurant
aniMal said:I remember having had something like that problem once, and I have been repairing cameras including Ms when needed...
I think it was some kind of canon-adapter, anyway the reason why it stuck slightly was that it was not machined to the best tolerances. Therefore it jammed slightly, but not more than that I could get it off by using the optics for it...
No, I've got two Voigtlander's : 50-75 and 35-135. The last one I tried on M3 with the described result
oscroft
Veteran
That does sound strange - I wonder if there was a problem with the shop's camera that he didn't want to admit to?No, firstly i was with the lens, but taking the lens off and pressing the button, the adapter went two or three mm to the "detach point" and freezed. And the lens went forward unscrewing from adapter...Nothing made the adapter went out.
Arvay said:Yesterday I came across the following problem.
I was examining M3 and put on my adapter to check the frames. It was fine but I couldn't take it off after. This was in a shop and there is a man who repair the technics. He was busy with my adapter for 15 minutes or so.
I was told after that CV adapters will never fit M3 and M4 as they have a kind of different bayonet mount.
Is this true?
Another question: will CV adapter fit MP or M6?
Thanks for answering.
Not True. There are two types of CV adapters, Type I and Type II. The difference is that Type II will allow M8 coding, Type I will not.
Either fit and work on any Leica M mount camera.
What can happen on older M's is that the frameline mechanism may need cleaning or adjustment so that it will automatically bring up the correct frameline -- with either the M adapter or with an M mount lens.
IF you lenses are FSU, that may be the problem. some FSU lenses don't have properly cut screw threads. I once bought five FSU screw mount lenses at a camera show. Only one mounted properly on a Leica IIIf. The rest would not screw in! Unusual perhaps, but it can happen.
Stephen
Arvay
Obscurant
The frames were shown as it is supposed to be.
The lens was CV Color-Scopar 35 and Nokton 50 mm didn't even sit on the cam.
I think the problem is with the cam. Proably it was some kind of "broken while repairing"
The lens was CV Color-Scopar 35 and Nokton 50 mm didn't even sit on the cam.
I think the problem is with the cam. Proably it was some kind of "broken while repairing"
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