micromoogman
Well-known
Xmas
Veteran
Droolllllllll...
Looks like a standard, google standard...
Noel
Looks like a standard, google standard...
Noel
Jerevan
Recycled User
Been to an auction today, eh?
The description says it's a Standard, but with a IIc top. The serial number designates it as a Leica I according to the official list. I am no expert, so I am intrigued by how and why it looks like it does.
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micromoogman
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yup
I thought it might be that rare standard e from 1947-50 with the IIIc body...the serial no does not match however.
I thought it might be that rare standard e from 1947-50 with the IIIc body...the serial no does not match however.
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Xmas
Veteran
What serial does the lens have?
The body outer does look like the '47-49 but that may have been fitted during repair by leitz, they ued cameras then, if it was broke they had spare parts.
Noel
The body outer does look like the '47-49 but that may have been fitted during repair by leitz, they ued cameras then, if it was broke they had spare parts.
Noel
micromoogman
Well-known
lens no 291527
Jerevan
Recycled User
The lens is from the same year as the camera, 1936. Could very well be the lens that came with it when new.
http://www.forloren.dk/lbf/leica_lens_serial.htm
http://www.forloren.dk/lbf/leica_lens_serial.htm
Xmas
Veteran
'36 then, if it was sold with the body, 205541 should also have been a '36 leica 1 (or a standard), but ELeitz may have had other problems in '36. So you may very well have a '36.
Noel
P.S. sorry double post
Noel
P.S. sorry double post
xayraa33
rangefinder user and fancier
it looks like a Leica standard made up from the chassis of the Leica III/ IIIa, so a buyer had a less expensive camera that could be upgraded at a later date if the owner chose to to that.
micromoogman
Well-known
similar to this... http://www.lausch.com/standardleica.htm
dll927
Well-known
Only the III series had the slow-speed dial, so it would not have been "deleted" on a Standard. But the viewfinder on there does look like the Standard or at least an early model.
This may be another case of what was fairly common in those days - the factory would upgrade an older camera to a more recent "vintage". I'm not aware that was ever done on the M series models. Anyone have different evidence?
This may be another case of what was fairly common in those days - the factory would upgrade an older camera to a more recent "vintage". I'm not aware that was ever done on the M series models. Anyone have different evidence?
Xmas
Veteran
A '36 standard might not have had the blanking plate, in '36.
They would convert two stroke to single, & ground notches in lenses for M5, if you requested during a service.
I'd imaging they would fit the finder enhancement today?
Noel
They would convert two stroke to single, & ground notches in lenses for M5, if you requested during a service.
I'd imaging they would fit the finder enhancement today?
Noel
colyn
ישו משיח
Leica III converted to a Ic with a standard viewfinder is what it looks like to me..
Rob-F
Likes Leicas
My serial# listings in Rogliatti and in the Hove Collectors Books Leica Pocket Manual list this serial# as a Standard from 1936. The fixed in place viewfinder, and only one accessory shoe, distinguishes it from the 1c which has two accessory shoes. The slow speed dial is not so much deleted as not added. Many Leicas have a blank cover where the slow-speed dial can be installed during a factory upgrade. An interesting detail is that the slow speed dial cover illustrated for the Standard in Rogliatti is of plain metal, where yours is decorated with a vulcanite circle. Lager's illustration shows a standard with no slow-speed dial cover at all. The Hove Pocket Guide is the same way.
xayraa33
rangefinder user and fancier
page 22 of the Leica Illustrated Guide by James Lager mentions that:
" Leica Standards made in 1947 -48 were constructed on a series III
Leica chassis with the slow speed dial covered up by a vulcanite patch or metal plate."
the serial no. of this camera is from the mid 1930s though.
" Leica Standards made in 1947 -48 were constructed on a series III
Leica chassis with the slow speed dial covered up by a vulcanite patch or metal plate."
the serial no. of this camera is from the mid 1930s though.
micromoogman
Well-known
I'm starting to like this enigmatic camera!
Ken Ford
Refuses to suffer fools
Whatever it is, it sure is lovely!
bananasplit
Established
If you are still interested....this camera looks like a Standard made by Leica New York.
Except the lens (not a Wollensack), the serial number...
Good catch.
Except the lens (not a Wollensack), the serial number...
Good catch.
david werbeloff
Member
Hi Micromoogman:
It's interesting that your camera has strap lugs. According to the Hove Pocket Book, the Leica Standard didn't have them.
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/member.php?u=4626
It's interesting that your camera has strap lugs. According to the Hove Pocket Book, the Leica Standard didn't have them.
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/member.php?u=4626
Ash
Selflessly Self-involved
To me it looks like a Ic or something?? Very similar to the I but with the interchangeable mount and everything.
My Leica Standard has no slow speed circle. It has strap lugs - just for the record (fao david
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My Leica Standard has no slow speed circle. It has strap lugs - just for the record (fao david
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