georgemvg
Member
Nice to meet you all! I joined the forum as I want to buy a RF camera and I am really interested in getting a QL17. I have not many clues on how exactly these cameras' meter work, so I am not very sure about my choice. I know that almost every fixed lens RF are very sharp, so this is not something I should care about. I really want the camera to have manual settings, or at least aperture priority, no sutter priority. And I want the meter to work in manual settings. Just like a SLR. Which one between Canonets, Yashicas, Minoltas, Olympus has this feature?
KoNickon
Nick Merritt
George, welcome! Check out the Compact 35's section here:http://www.cameraquest.com/classics.htm This is the site operated by Stephen Gandy, who owns this forum, and it's loaded with information. Read his articles there, and you will find out what the cameras' features are.
I'm not up on the distinctions among the different compact 35s myself, but I do know that the QL17 will not meter in manual mode. The Konica S3, another camera well worth considering, is shutter priority AE only, no manual.
I'm not up on the distinctions among the different compact 35s myself, but I do know that the QL17 will not meter in manual mode. The Konica S3, another camera well worth considering, is shutter priority AE only, no manual.
FrankS
Registered User
The Canon Q17 and Q19 are shutter priority AE, and no meter in manual mode.
Bingley
Veteran
Welcome to the forum! One fixed-lens RF camera that is not mentioned in Stephen G's write-up is the Konica S2. It has both manual and semi-auto modes (shutter priority), like the Q17. Unlike the Q17, however, the meter works in manual mode. It is reputed to have one of the sharpest lenses among fixed-lens RFs of the 1960s, and has a wonderfully bright viewfinder with paralax-corrected framelines. It is larger than the Q17, if size makes a difference to you. These cameras can be had very cheaply, often under $50 for one in very good condition.
Kim Coxon
Moderator
wintoid
Back to film
Olympus 35SP - does have a primitive "Program" mode, but also a weird metered manual (using EVs) which I love. It doesn't hurt that the lens is wonderful too.
shadowfox
Darkroom printing lives
what wintoid said. Olympus 35 SP has one of the best lens of the class.
oftheherd
Veteran
Remember that if you use the auto-exposure, once you know one combination of shutter/aperture that is correct, all you have to do is change aperture/shutter to what you really want. You can do that with a readout in shutter/aperture or EV, but I never used EV enough enough to get comfortable with it. I guess it wouldn't make much difference in EV. Hope that helps with your decision.
BTW, welcome to the forums.
BTW, welcome to the forums.
georgemvg
Member
Unfortunately, I am not such an experienced photographer to choose the correct combination for the particular time of the day, or amount of available light. Thats why I need the meter to work in manual. But I think only if aperture priority does not exist. Anyway, the Olympus SP is a bit expensive, I'd rather buy a Bessa...
shadowfox
Darkroom printing lives
georgemvg said:
I started last year without even knowing what EV means
and now I'm comfortable shooting without a meter.As far as being expensive, it's actually undervalued at around $100 on the bay. Bessa will cost you upwards of $300 body only, right? and more for the lens.
georgemvg
Member
Another question, a bit irrelevant.
http://www.pbase.com/image/25005391
http://www.pbase.com/image/85425485
http://www.pbase.com/image/25005394
http://www.pbase.com/image/38929070
http://www.pbase.com/image/81453757
All pictures are from Electro Gsn. In the first 3, where have the colors gone? It has to do with filters and such? With the digital, I capture Raw and then a little proccesing. Does film photography exists without filters?
So, lets say I don't need the meter...Which one has the best lens and reliability?
p.s. sorry I am using other people photos, I don't own a film camera. No offence, no judging to anyone...
http://www.pbase.com/image/25005391
http://www.pbase.com/image/85425485
http://www.pbase.com/image/25005394
http://www.pbase.com/image/38929070
http://www.pbase.com/image/81453757
All pictures are from Electro Gsn. In the first 3, where have the colors gone? It has to do with filters and such? With the digital, I capture Raw and then a little proccesing. Does film photography exists without filters?
So, lets say I don't need the meter...Which one has the best lens and reliability?
p.s. sorry I am using other people photos, I don't own a film camera. No offence, no judging to anyone...
jesse1dog
Light Catcher
Canon QL17
Canon QL17
I thought these looked really nice cameras and had one on my wish list. It remained there until I unexpectedly had one to handle. I didn't like it at all - found it awkward and heavy.
Its all a question of what suits you. The camera is supposed to be a tool to help you capture images and moments - a sort of extension of yourself.
I suggest that you try to handle any camera before you buy.
Does it feel right?
Can you carry it easily?
Will it do what you want - do you need a 1.8 lens for instance?
So best of luck - a good Olympus 35RD is now on my wish list!
j
Canon QL17
I thought these looked really nice cameras and had one on my wish list. It remained there until I unexpectedly had one to handle. I didn't like it at all - found it awkward and heavy.
Its all a question of what suits you. The camera is supposed to be a tool to help you capture images and moments - a sort of extension of yourself.
I suggest that you try to handle any camera before you buy.
Does it feel right?
Can you carry it easily?
Will it do what you want - do you need a 1.8 lens for instance?
So best of luck - a good Olympus 35RD is now on my wish list!
j
georgemvg
Member
Unfortunately I live in a small town in Greece and there is no chance that I find these cameras to try them. I think go for my first choice, Yashica, as they say it is the best for low light photography. That's what I want...I think....Anyway it is 50-70 euros, no need to search it more. If it doesn't suit me, I keep it and buy another one. And I really need film photography lessons guys!
georgemvg
Member
Its huge! It is home and really really huge! Anyway, I like it very much and its condition is mint! I haven't test it yet as I don't have a battery yet. I have changed the light seals and the battery remains. All these battery adapters that are on ebay, have also a voltage regulator, or it is only a matter of size? (mods can move the thread now I think)
