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i have 2 xpro3 bodies and still, 3 xe3 bodies and i quite like them all.
so of course i have been looking at the x100v camera lately.
just from reviews and some youtube videos i am almost prepared to get one on the way home tonight.
but then i think...what on earth do i need another camera for???
this morning i took an xe3 body added the 27mm lens to it and i'm thinking voila, my own x100v...similar size and capability but no weather protection.
but really...an x100v will likely fit into more pockets than a xe3 with tiny lens.
even so...it's not like the xpro3 is all that big...
i could use some sage counsel...
dazed & confused...
so of course i have been looking at the x100v camera lately.
just from reviews and some youtube videos i am almost prepared to get one on the way home tonight.
but then i think...what on earth do i need another camera for???
this morning i took an xe3 body added the 27mm lens to it and i'm thinking voila, my own x100v...similar size and capability but no weather protection.
but really...an x100v will likely fit into more pockets than a xe3 with tiny lens.
even so...it's not like the xpro3 is all that big...
i could use some sage counsel...
dazed & confused...
Ccoppola82
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Get a nice looking, comfortable cross chest strap and wear your xpro3. There...I saved you $1200. Lol. But seriously, I wear a camera like that daily. Either an m6 or M240-P. The 240 is a bit heavier but I honestly don’t notice it.
Darthfeeble
But you can call me Steve
Were the XE3 larger than the X100 I would understand the desire, it's not. Try a rubber band around the lens at the mounting point for some weather protection.
Disappointed_Horse
Well-known
These are cameras we're talking about… what does "need" have to do with it?
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surely you jest...
I have both the x100v and the x-e3 with 27mm. The x100v is by far the sexier camera and 35mm and 40mm are totally different for me. That said... the X-E3 is my cheapest camera and is what I use when I think I might get robbed or when traveling somewhere where I don’t want to worry about my camera since it is still completely capable of great quality.
Surely you can sacrifice an xe3 or two and a lens and grab the x100v...
The best thing about the X100V is it fits in a non-camera bag Very well thanks to it low profile lens and the design of its lens cap which does not fall off.
Surely you can sacrifice an xe3 or two and a lens and grab the x100v...
The best thing about the X100V is it fits in a non-camera bag Very well thanks to it low profile lens and the design of its lens cap which does not fall off.
majid
Fazal Majid
Over the last 14 years, I used to EDC, in chronological order:
The RX1s displaced the Fujis because of superior image quality, but the GR replaced them due to superior portability. Sometimes even a small difference in size can make a huge difference in practicality.
- Sigma DP1
- Sigma DP2
- Panasonic GF1 with 20mm f/1.7
- Leica X1
- Fuji X100
- Fuji X100S
- Sony RX1
- Sony RX1RII
- Ricoh GRIII
The RX1s displaced the Fujis because of superior image quality, but the GR replaced them due to superior portability. Sometimes even a small difference in size can make a huge difference in practicality.
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i plan on selling some gear soon...i need to generate some energy for the task.
Godfrey
somewhat colored
"why do we need an every day carry camera?"
We only need such a thing if we want to carry a camera every day, and if we want that camera to be something different from what we use for our "serious" or special occasion photography, and we want one camera to be that carry.
I don't need an every day carry camera. I might carry a camera most days, but what I want to do that changes day by day: It would be foolish to buy one camera and expect that I will carry just that one every day. I have more cameras than I can enumerate on two hands, most quite different from the next, and I carry whatever one on a given day I feel like making photos with.
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We only need such a thing if we want to carry a camera every day, and if we want that camera to be something different from what we use for our "serious" or special occasion photography, and we want one camera to be that carry.
I don't need an every day carry camera. I might carry a camera most days, but what I want to do that changes day by day: It would be foolish to buy one camera and expect that I will carry just that one every day. I have more cameras than I can enumerate on two hands, most quite different from the next, and I carry whatever one on a given day I feel like making photos with.
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i very rarely leave my place without a camera...over my shoulder, in a small bag or a dedicated camera bag...lately it's the ona bowery with a xpro3 and 2 small extra lenses...a great kit!
i like fixed lens cameras, small, light and can be fantastic image makers and in winter there are many coat pockets that they can fit into...
one more night to sleep on it all.
i like fixed lens cameras, small, light and can be fantastic image makers and in winter there are many coat pockets that they can fit into...
one more night to sleep on it all.
Forest_rain
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I notice that "small and light" seems to be the most popular category. Unfortunately cameras like the RX100 don't offer much IQ improvement over a cell phone these days because of the smaller sensor, but they are still popular because they are so compact.
Your fuji is worth the size difference IMHO because I had an RX100 and couldn't discern the difference between images taken on my phone, and it was just another thing to carry around.
That being said I use a Micro 4/3 E-PM2 with a 20mm 1.7 pancake lens for a really compact easy carry camera, and it's pretty cheap. Even though it's older it's still 16MP and the sensor tech hasn't improved much so it's still quite good.
Personally, I don't mind even carrying around a film SLR compared to a rangefinder, because the size difference is really not that different IMHO. The mirror and prism really help a lot for framing. But a DSLR would just be too much for me.
I've been using a Kiev 60 with a 150mm 2.8 lens for my daily carry recently. It's absolutely huge and heavy, but I've gotten used to it. It's worth the IQ of medium format for me to use it. I don't mind not having a TLR because I can use the telephoto lens on the Kiev which means I don't have to get closer to subjects, and I've gotten used to carrying the Kiev.
It's just a matter of perspective and your needs. I find that digital cameras can be an endless GAS with constantly trying to find the better camera.
Your fuji is worth the size difference IMHO because I had an RX100 and couldn't discern the difference between images taken on my phone, and it was just another thing to carry around.
That being said I use a Micro 4/3 E-PM2 with a 20mm 1.7 pancake lens for a really compact easy carry camera, and it's pretty cheap. Even though it's older it's still 16MP and the sensor tech hasn't improved much so it's still quite good.
Personally, I don't mind even carrying around a film SLR compared to a rangefinder, because the size difference is really not that different IMHO. The mirror and prism really help a lot for framing. But a DSLR would just be too much for me.
I've been using a Kiev 60 with a 150mm 2.8 lens for my daily carry recently. It's absolutely huge and heavy, but I've gotten used to it. It's worth the IQ of medium format for me to use it. I don't mind not having a TLR because I can use the telephoto lens on the Kiev which means I don't have to get closer to subjects, and I've gotten used to carrying the Kiev.
It's just a matter of perspective and your needs. I find that digital cameras can be an endless GAS with constantly trying to find the better camera.
Hmmm, I do not see anywhere where Joe said this is going to replace all of his cameras. We all make excuses to buy the gear we buy. He simply wants another camera, one that is relatively compact, and that is it. I know that when I am out photographing seriously, I certainly use whatever will be best for the task that day. However, if it is not a day where photography is the focus, but I still think there could be some photos... photos in which my cell phone won't cut it... then a small camera is welcome.
So were / are film cameras... but I concede in the fact that digital cameras are computers with a constant arc of getting "better" built in.
robert blu
quiet photographer
"why do we need an every day carry camera?"
To be fair I have always been a little skeptical about this idea to have always a camera with me.
But the pandemic changed my way to see it.
First when a couple of friends living far away asked me to show a few pictures of my town I realized that I have very few. Second I'm not sure when and how I'll be able to travel again to the places where I would like to photograph.
The consequence is that I decided to build a body of work about my area, town and neighborhood.
Having a camera with me most of time I go out opens many photo possibilities and I'm learning to see many more interesting subjects.
An additional benefit is that people in my neighborhodd get used to see me with a camera and become less suspicious if I ask them to take their portrait.
Now the point which camera? For me at the moment is the M10 with a 50 which I wear cross chest, probably on day I'll go wider (love my 28 summaron!) but it could also be the old Leica x1 or a film camera.
Using always the same camera and same lens gives more visual consistency to the work, changing lens or camera gives more diversity, both good, it depends ...
To be fair I have always been a little skeptical about this idea to have always a camera with me.
But the pandemic changed my way to see it.
First when a couple of friends living far away asked me to show a few pictures of my town I realized that I have very few. Second I'm not sure when and how I'll be able to travel again to the places where I would like to photograph.
The consequence is that I decided to build a body of work about my area, town and neighborhood.
Having a camera with me most of time I go out opens many photo possibilities and I'm learning to see many more interesting subjects.
An additional benefit is that people in my neighborhodd get used to see me with a camera and become less suspicious if I ask them to take their portrait.
Now the point which camera? For me at the moment is the M10 with a 50 which I wear cross chest, probably on day I'll go wider (love my 28 summaron!) but it could also be the old Leica x1 or a film camera.
Using always the same camera and same lens gives more visual consistency to the work, changing lens or camera gives more diversity, both good, it depends ...
I think this is the difference. I prefer to photograph where I live and on a semi-regular basis. This means I bring a camera with me often. If you only photograph when traveling or during special occasions, you might think an every day carry camera is silly. Also, we are either the type that work with minimal equipment or the type that bring a bag of equipment. If you are the latter type, the thought of one camera, one lens is down right ludicrous. I've always been comfortable with one camera, and one lens when photographing.
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Ventor
Whenever using a camera in extreme weather conditions, I gave out before the camera did. Cheers, OtL
RichC
Well-known
This ^
Will another/different camera allow you to take photos that you were unable to before? For example, because it's small and can be carried more often to more places.
If the answer is "no", you don't need a new camera. Instead, you want a new camera - which is fine, but can't be justified by facts or logic...
Dogman
Veteran
It seems to me you already have your EDC camera since you rarely leave home without one. If you want a small pocketable camera you probably should forget the X100V and look at true pocket-size cameras. The Ricoh GR series comes to mind readily but there are M4/3 and 1" sensor models around that would also fit the bill. Image quality is a given these days so you won't give up much, if anything, going to a smaller format. But if you just want the X100V...that's reason enough to get it.
EDIT: Don't worry about weather resistance too much. There are ways to protect the camera from the weather. And when was the last time you used your cameras in a driving rainstorm anyway?
EDIT: Don't worry about weather resistance too much. There are ways to protect the camera from the weather. And when was the last time you used your cameras in a driving rainstorm anyway?
AlexBG
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I'm struggling to justify a digital camera at all with what I shoot and how good my phone is.
Film cameras are a whole other ball game.
If you have a 23mm lens on any of the bodies you have constantly and use it then an x100 would be a good choice instead of.
Film cameras are a whole other ball game.
If you have a 23mm lens on any of the bodies you have constantly and use it then an x100 would be a good choice instead of.
I agree completely, but it is still subjective. I know others that truly prefer big cameras and cannot understand why we fret over minor differences in size and weight. .