Sparrow
Veteran
... seems to be Adobe's attitude ... I've just upgraded to OSX 10.10 and my old Photoshop naturally won't work on the new OS
As I'm retired now I can't really justify the ongoing rental cost of the Creative Cloud ... but as a user of photoshop for all these years I don't want the bother of learning something new, I'd be happy with CS4 or 5 if it has some support and will run on Yosemite, so ...
... what can I do? ... do we have an expert in the house?
In hope, Stewart
As I'm retired now I can't really justify the ongoing rental cost of the Creative Cloud ... but as a user of photoshop for all these years I don't want the bother of learning something new, I'd be happy with CS4 or 5 if it has some support and will run on Yosemite, so ...
... what can I do? ... do we have an expert in the house?
In hope, Stewart
dasuess
Nikon Freak
Just moved from Aperture and I use CC Photography subscription which gives me LR and Photoshop for $9.99/month.
ruby.monkey
Veteran
Use gimp? It copies PS (or vice versa) closely enough that you should be up and running straight away.
cmc850
Established
It is a pain - the Creative Cloud is Adobe's suggested solution, for sure - but it does seem that certainly CS6 ( and maybe CS5 with some added fixes) can run under Yosemite. I have not moved to cloud and use CS6 both on mac and PC, and am avoiding the "upgrade" to 10.10 on the mac side.
See: http://blogs.adobe.com/crawlspace/2014/10/photoshop-and-mac-osx-10-10-yosemite.html
While I am sure there are features I am missing out on with the CC versions, I am quite happy with the capabilities I have with the old-license model product. If you have a licensed copy of CS4 or earlier, it is also possible to run a virtual machine with previous Mac OSX installed, via Parallels or VMWare.
See: http://blogs.adobe.com/crawlspace/2014/10/photoshop-and-mac-osx-10-10-yosemite.html
While I am sure there are features I am missing out on with the CC versions, I am quite happy with the capabilities I have with the old-license model product. If you have a licensed copy of CS4 or earlier, it is also possible to run a virtual machine with previous Mac OSX installed, via Parallels or VMWare.
John Bragg
Well-known
+1 for Gimp. It works for me.
Sparrow
Veteran
... my old dImage 5400 and ancient copy of view-scan is up and running straight off, why can't photoshop ... is there a redundancy switch in some software, or an I getting old and cynical?
cmc850
Established
I think the issue is that the latest Mac OSX Yosemite will no longer support 32-bit apps and only 64-bit ones. Some apps can be run in "32 bit mode" but not Photoshop prior to CS5. There are likely other reasons for the incompatibility. It does appear a number of users have rolled back to Mavericks, as their investment in Photoshop outweighs any minor enhancements the newer OS offers.
Vuescan is currently being updated, and has enabled many older scanners to continue working with later operating systems. That's kind of its primary selling point. Adobe? Apple? They only make money if you buy something new. It's all progress, the hardware and software vendors will tell you - but we know that just like taking photos with older equipment, often times our older computers and older software can do everything the latest can.
Vuescan is currently being updated, and has enabled many older scanners to continue working with later operating systems. That's kind of its primary selling point. Adobe? Apple? They only make money if you buy something new. It's all progress, the hardware and software vendors will tell you - but we know that just like taking photos with older equipment, often times our older computers and older software can do everything the latest can.
daveleo
what?
+me for The GIMP (if you find that you MUST learn new software) ..... at least spend a few days with it.
It is limited to 8-bit colors, but you have to ask yourself "do I actually need more than 8-bit colors ????"
It is limited to 8-bit colors, but you have to ask yourself "do I actually need more than 8-bit colors ????"
back alley
IMAGES
photoshop elements...works for me.
Mackinaw
Think Different
I deliberately kept around an old external hard drive with OSX 10.6 installed just so I could run PhotoShop CS3. When I need it, I plug in the hard drive and Photoshop away. When I don’t need it, I unplug the hard drive and stick it back in the drawer.
Jim B.
Jim B.
bsdunek
Old Guy with a Corgi
These things bug me more than the PS problem. I have a MacBook that does what I want, but it is now obsolete. I can keep running my old software, but can't upgrade anything. Even my iPod won't work now. Sometimes I would like to stop progress and stay where I like. (steps off of soapbox)
Oh, that's why I use film and my darkroom. It's all set in mid-20th century where I like it.
Oh, that's why I use film and my darkroom. It's all set in mid-20th century where I like it.
Ko.Fe.
Lenses 35/21 Gears 46/20
Sorry, no easy solution for OP from me here...
I like and using old 3.6 Lightroom on 64-bit Windows OS, I have tried GIPM some years ago and it was crashing and trashing IQ.
I'm not the only one here! I even have two turntables to play at all three speeds and some records.
I like and using old 3.6 Lightroom on 64-bit Windows OS, I have tried GIPM some years ago and it was crashing and trashing IQ.
I'm not the only one here! I even have two turntables to play at all three speeds and some records.
Ranchu
Veteran
This is the solution, or don't upgrade your OS. I Use Canon's DPP though, it has curves, crop and tilt, and clone. Adobe can go to hell.
Darthfeeble
But you can call me Steve
I found that Photoshop Elements will do all that I needed to do to a photo. I also have Aperture, Lightroom, Capture One and AcDsee. All acquired in a search for one that would do the X-Trans files properly when I first got the XP1. I really like Aperture and am now adjusting to Lightroom in light of Apples decision to abandon Aperture. Of all of them I would probably recommend PSE as you are transitioning from PS. Good luck.
Bille
Well-known
Addy101
Well-known
I positively hate Lightroom - I hated it before this stupid subscription deal. Bought a new camera and I needed to upgrade the software for a lot of dough. Why? Free software can do it.
Anyway, I run RAW Therapee and Paint Shop Pro.
Anyway, I run RAW Therapee and Paint Shop Pro.
bhop73
Well-known
I'm in the minority it seems, but I like Adobe CC. If I were to buy it outright (like the old days), it'd cost more than my monthly subscription, but then, i'm a graphic designer and use more than just Photoshop/Lightroom, but it works out for me. Plus I like that they keep it updated with the newest tools and such, since, as a professional user, i'd probably want to upgrade every few years too.
I use CS5 at work, and CC 2014 at home and there is a big difference in the way things work IMO. A lot of it's not really noticeable in specs, but when you use it, you notice things. I wish we could update at work.
I use CS5 at work, and CC 2014 at home and there is a big difference in the way things work IMO. A lot of it's not really noticeable in specs, but when you use it, you notice things. I wish we could update at work.
Sparrow
Veteran
It's just the blatant disregard for their customers that annoys me.
I'm a twenty odd year user of photoshop or other adobe kit, I had it on maybe twenty machines maybe ... I had 11 designers at one time, plus what I had at home, and the kids college stuff ... and now it can just stop working without explanation, and I have to put up the cash or shut up ...
I'm a twenty odd year user of photoshop or other adobe kit, I had it on maybe twenty machines maybe ... I had 11 designers at one time, plus what I had at home, and the kids college stuff ... and now it can just stop working without explanation, and I have to put up the cash or shut up ...
x-ray
Veteran
Sparrow Adobe is only interested in how much $$ they can shake out of our pockets.
I'm still using CS4 and LR5. I made the mistake of updating my OS from 10.6 to 10.8 and my tablet won't work on it and my color profiles for the monitor won't remain stable. They revert back to a generic profile and the color is wrong. I recalibrate and it goes back to a generic. What I did was go back a notch to 10.7. I had to have 10.7 or later for LR5 (new camera not supported by LR4) and couldn't find my upgrade disc for 10.8 so like an iddiot I did the upgrade to 10.8.
What I wound up doing is taking my Mac Pro into the shop and had a second solid state drive put in with 10.7 and that's what I boot from and work with. 10.7 runs all my scanners, tablet and software perfectly. I have no issues with it and will not change / upgrade anytime soon. Upgrading would require upgrading software and tablet which would cost a couple of thousand dollars. No thanks!!!
I'm planning on reformatting my 10.8 drive and putting windows XP on it. I have a virgin copy of xp pro and want to run a couple of apps that aren't available for mac.
Consider taking your machine into a repair shop and having 10.7 put on it. 10.8 and up are dogs from what I've seen and heard. Seems like every time Apple comes with an upgraded OS it causes major headaches.
Question for GIMP users, dopes it support 16 bit files?
Thanks!
I'm still using CS4 and LR5. I made the mistake of updating my OS from 10.6 to 10.8 and my tablet won't work on it and my color profiles for the monitor won't remain stable. They revert back to a generic profile and the color is wrong. I recalibrate and it goes back to a generic. What I did was go back a notch to 10.7. I had to have 10.7 or later for LR5 (new camera not supported by LR4) and couldn't find my upgrade disc for 10.8 so like an iddiot I did the upgrade to 10.8.
What I wound up doing is taking my Mac Pro into the shop and had a second solid state drive put in with 10.7 and that's what I boot from and work with. 10.7 runs all my scanners, tablet and software perfectly. I have no issues with it and will not change / upgrade anytime soon. Upgrading would require upgrading software and tablet which would cost a couple of thousand dollars. No thanks!!!
I'm planning on reformatting my 10.8 drive and putting windows XP on it. I have a virgin copy of xp pro and want to run a couple of apps that aren't available for mac.
Consider taking your machine into a repair shop and having 10.7 put on it. 10.8 and up are dogs from what I've seen and heard. Seems like every time Apple comes with an upgraded OS it causes major headaches.
Question for GIMP users, dopes it support 16 bit files?
Thanks!
daveleo
what?
No it does not, read my posting way above here.
I prod people to ask themselves honestly if they really need 14-bit or 16-bit color for their final image product. If you NEED that, The GIMP is not your solution.