Provia 100F vs. Velvia (Samples)

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Which one do you choose if you don't do any post processing.

The top three images are Velvia

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The bottom two are Provia 100F

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These images are available from http://flickr.com/photos/drjoke/

All are taken with ZM Sonnar 50MM on Zeiss Ikon
 
drjoke, both sets are great. I asume that the Velvia set is Velvia 100, not the 'f' version. Did you meter the shot, or use 'aperture priority? Both sets are excellent, and each film amazing in what you captured. The Velvia set of three, are excellent, but I am only liking the second shot of the Provia set.

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MArk
Quito, EC
 
Well, we can all sit around and split hairs on this, based on what we see on our screens at 72dpi. But, through a decent, high-powered loupe, and in a well-made print, what do you see?


- Barrett
 
These look good. From my experience, I would've guessed the Velvia you are using is the 100F. I still have a lot of Provia 100F in the freezer. It was the first non-black and white film I used. I should thaw some out...
 
Friend, even at 72dpi on my screen, those shots are all lovely, great colors and super sharp. Guess when it comes to those ZM lenses, you get what you pay for. Thanks for sharing.....John/sooner
 
amateriat said:
Well, we can all sit around and split hairs on this, based on what we see on our screens at 72dpi.


- Barrett
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Additionally, does the phrase "non color managed browser" mean anything?

And even that assumes a perfect color managed workflow from the initial scan to what we get as a JPG.
 
Well, non-calibrated browser/monitor/computer aside, I like the looks of the Provia better, as the colours seem more natural. Disclaimer: I'm a big fan of Provia, so I'm very likely biased.

Does that help any? 😀
 
wray said:
I just recalibrated my monitor two days ago and am using a color managed browser and the Velvia slides all have a magenta cast. The Provia looks better.
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agree on the magenta cast from velvia.... provia looks good...
incredible sharpness from the sonnar... would love to see a 100% crop though....
 
kross said:
agree on the magenta cast from velvia.... provia looks good...
incredible sharpness from the sonnar... would love to see a 100% crop though....
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I see a bluish cast in the Velvia shots as well. Otherwise, the shots look lovely.

I'll second the positive impression of the Sonnar. Tonality seems beautiful. Yes, let's see a 100% crop!
 
shadowfox said:
Provia looks better.
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Velvia is not for people who like 'natural' looking colors, especially not Velvia 50 or 100. 100F is slightly more 'natural', but Provia 100F is even more 'natural' looking. Astia 100F on the other hand is probably the best of the Fujifilm slide films in that regard. Sensia 100 is not bad either, but it has slightly more grain than the professional films.

For 'natural' color fans Agfa Precisa slide films are superb, if you can still get them. However, many slide film users consider Agfa colors too subdued... Precisa also has a bit more grain than Fujifilm or Kodak pro films.
 
Yes, the velvia shots do have a strong magenta cast and I've seen this time after time with velvia, mostly on urban shots. Provia looks much better to me in the city.

Take the velvia out to the hills, let it see some yellow and green, or may be a purple sunrise over the mountain. Then you'll know what velvia is made for.
 
drjoke said:
Which one do you choose if you don't do any post processing.
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It depends on the subject. If I were trying to capture a night scene with colorful street lights, my choice would be Velvia. I prefer Provia when there are human faces that I want to get naturally rendered.
 
You need to do postprocessing on both sets, imo.
The asphalt should not be magenta-ish.
I don;t know what is behind the question, but i don't see a reason to compare two "unmodified" scans of two different films. I say you should optimize them both, see what is the most you can get out of a film and then compare only.

As long as you scan them you modify them already.
 
Pherdinand said:
i don't see a reason to compare two "unmodified" scans of two different films. I say you should optimize them both, see what is the most you can get out of a film and then compare only.
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I assumed that drjoke makes the question for projected slides, and he gave us scans as close as possible to the original slides, and our CRTs and TFTs are well calibrated ....

Too many assumptions, I guess ...
 
well, you have a point with the projection, alcaraban. My TFT is calibrated, and although it's a rather cheap 17" iiyama monitor i still think i'm ocrrect when i say that both sets have a strong pink-magenta cast which is easiest to see in the colour of the asphalt. As well as the white regions on the bike (first image).
 
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