drjoke
Well-known
Which one do you choose if you don't do any post processing.
The top three images are Velvia
The bottom two are Provia 100F
These images are available from http://flickr.com/photos/drjoke/
All are taken with ZM Sonnar 50MM on Zeiss Ikon
The top three images are Velvia
The bottom two are Provia 100F
These images are available from http://flickr.com/photos/drjoke/
All are taken with ZM Sonnar 50MM on Zeiss Ikon
mw_uio
Well-known
drjoke, both sets are great. I asume that the Velvia set is Velvia 100, not the 'f' version. Did you meter the shot, or use 'aperture priority? Both sets are excellent, and each film amazing in what you captured. The Velvia set of three, are excellent, but I am only liking the second shot of the Provia set.
Cheers
MArk
Quito, EC
Cheers
MArk
Quito, EC
amateriat
We're all light!
Well, we can all sit around and split hairs on this, based on what we see on our screens at 72dpi. But, through a decent, high-powered loupe, and in a well-made print, what do you see?
- Barrett
- Barrett
sienarot
Well-known
These look good. From my experience, I would've guessed the Velvia you are using is the 100F. I still have a lot of Provia 100F in the freezer. It was the first non-black and white film I used. I should thaw some out...
sooner
Well-known
Friend, even at 72dpi on my screen, those shots are all lovely, great colors and super sharp. Guess when it comes to those ZM lenses, you get what you pay for. Thanks for sharing.....John/sooner
Bob Michaels
nobody special
amateriat said:
Additionally, does the phrase "non color managed browser" mean anything?
And even that assumes a perfect color managed workflow from the initial scan to what we get as a JPG.
BJ Bignell
Je n'aurai plus peur
Well, non-calibrated browser/monitor/computer aside, I like the looks of the Provia better, as the colours seem more natural. Disclaimer: I'm a big fan of Provia, so I'm very likely biased.
Does that help any?
Does that help any?
wray
Well-known
I just recalibrated my monitor two days ago and am using a color managed browser and the Velvia slides all have a magenta cast. The Provia looks better.
kross
sonnarism
agree on the magenta cast from velvia.... provia looks good...wray said:
incredible sharpness from the sonnar... would love to see a 100% crop though....
J J Kapsberger
Well-known
kross said:
I see a bluish cast in the Velvia shots as well. Otherwise, the shots look lovely.
I'll second the positive impression of the Sonnar. Tonality seems beautiful. Yes, let's see a 100% crop!
Jamie123
Veteran
I haven't tried Provia yet but from my own experience I can say that I really DISLIKE Velvia!
shadowfox
Darkroom printing lives
Provia looks better.
Dr. Strangelove
Cobalt thorium G
Velvia is not for people who like 'natural' looking colors, especially not Velvia 50 or 100. 100F is slightly more 'natural', but Provia 100F is even more 'natural' looking. Astia 100F on the other hand is probably the best of the Fujifilm slide films in that regard. Sensia 100 is not bad either, but it has slightly more grain than the professional films.shadowfox said:
For 'natural' color fans Agfa Precisa slide films are superb, if you can still get them. However, many slide film users consider Agfa colors too subdued... Precisa also has a bit more grain than Fujifilm or Kodak pro films.
IK13
Established
Yes, the velvia shots do have a strong magenta cast and I've seen this time after time with velvia, mostly on urban shots. Provia looks much better to me in the city.
Take the velvia out to the hills, let it see some yellow and green, or may be a purple sunrise over the mountain. Then you'll know what velvia is made for.
Take the velvia out to the hills, let it see some yellow and green, or may be a purple sunrise over the mountain. Then you'll know what velvia is made for.
drazin
Member
i really enjoy these photos. i need to pick some of that film up.
what did you use to scan these?
what did you use to scan these?
alcaraban
Established
It depends on the subject. If I were trying to capture a night scene with colorful street lights, my choice would be Velvia. I prefer Provia when there are human faces that I want to get naturally rendered.drjoke said:
Pherdinand
the snow must go on
You need to do postprocessing on both sets, imo.
The asphalt should not be magenta-ish.
I don;t know what is behind the question, but i don't see a reason to compare two "unmodified" scans of two different films. I say you should optimize them both, see what is the most you can get out of a film and then compare only.
As long as you scan them you modify them already.
The asphalt should not be magenta-ish.
I don;t know what is behind the question, but i don't see a reason to compare two "unmodified" scans of two different films. I say you should optimize them both, see what is the most you can get out of a film and then compare only.
As long as you scan them you modify them already.
alcaraban
Established
Pherdinand said:
I assumed that drjoke makes the question for projected slides, and he gave us scans as close as possible to the original slides, and our CRTs and TFTs are well calibrated ....
Too many assumptions, I guess ...
Pherdinand
the snow must go on
well, you have a point with the projection, alcaraban. My TFT is calibrated, and although it's a rather cheap 17" iiyama monitor i still think i'm ocrrect when i say that both sets have a strong pink-magenta cast which is easiest to see in the colour of the asphalt. As well as the white regions on the bike (first image).
Never Satisfied
Well-known
If you're not post processing I'd choose the Provia, only because the Velvia looks very magenta, on my monitor that is. Andrew.