wgerrard
Veteran
...according to this guy at Wired: http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2007/11/five-reasons-fi.html
jamesj
Well-known
you would think as a telecommunications company they would let us read wired...
Bill Blackwell
Leica M Shooter
wgerrard said:...according to this guy at Wired: http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2007/11/five-reasons-fi.html
Well spoken from someone who most likely has never shot with a professional level digital camera or processed large RAW photo images. I know this because I would have made all of the same arguments (and more) before experiencing the M8.
kuzano
Veteran
Pretty accurate, but left out a couple
Pretty accurate, but left out a couple
Loved the part about the Grubba software - Trugrain - to add grain back into the images.
So with special software to:
Upres the image for bigger printing
Add grain back in
Sharpen the image
Reduce Purple Fringing
Convert RAW
Etc. Etc. Etc
You need never leave your computer keyboard....
The items I listed above are a minor sampling of the plugins for Photoshop and other image editors.
Talk to me about the immediacy of digital.... The Final Image that is. Paychecks come faster insofar as the client is NOT demanding.
Pretty accurate, but left out a couple
Loved the part about the Grubba software - Trugrain - to add grain back into the images.
So with special software to:
Upres the image for bigger printing
Add grain back in
Sharpen the image
Reduce Purple Fringing
Convert RAW
Etc. Etc. Etc
You need never leave your computer keyboard....
The items I listed above are a minor sampling of the plugins for Photoshop and other image editors.
Talk to me about the immediacy of digital.... The Final Image that is. Paychecks come faster insofar as the client is NOT demanding.
Tuolumne
Veteran
Oh, please. This was obviously written as just an ad spam page. Notice that all the ads on this anti-digital write-up are for dSLRs! They just wanted some page space to display advertisements, and this mock digital attack was written to stir controversey and send eyeballs to the page so they could rake in some CPMs. Don't fall for this nonsense - AND DON"T GO TO THE PAGE.
/T
/T
kevin m
Veteran
Oh good, a film v. digital thread. I'm going to go make some popcorn. 
Al Patterson
Ferroequinologist
Pshaw! I'm tired of film AND digital. I'm going to buy me a sketch pad and some crayolas. And charcoal for B&W.
Seriously, hasn't this been done to death already? The equine corpse has been flogged so long it's starting to stink up the place...
Seriously, hasn't this been done to death already? The equine corpse has been flogged so long it's starting to stink up the place...
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DougK
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Al, you beat me to saying it, although I'll vote for colored pencils instead of Craoyla... hey, there's the next "X vs. Y" debateAl Patterson said:Pshaw! I'm tired of film AND digital. I'm going to buy me a sketch pad and some crayolas. And charcoal for B&W.
Seriously, hasn't this been done to death already? The equine corpse has been flooged so long it's starting to stink up the place...
Sparrow
Veteran
Al Patterson said:Pshaw! I'm tired of film AND digital. I'm going to buy me a sketch pad and some crayolas. And charcoal for B&W.
Seriously, hasn't this been done to death already? The equine corpse has been flogged so long it's starting to stink up the place...
Serious artists use oil pastels; more dynamic range, crayolas are for amateurs
kevin m
Veteran
Screw the whole "artist using tools" thing, that's so done to death. I think I'll go chew some magic mushrooms and watch the trees breathe. :angel:
photogdave
Shops local
Obviously the writer has never actually used a G9. They are very, very fast!
kevin m
Veteran
A more important question:
What do pixels smell like?
I spent many hours in the darkroom and developer, stop bath, fixer and toner all have a particular odor. But despite all my time using photoshop, I've never smelled a pixel.
What do pixels smell like?
I spent many hours in the darkroom and developer, stop bath, fixer and toner all have a particular odor. But despite all my time using photoshop, I've never smelled a pixel.
Sparrow
Veteran
kevin m said:A more important question:
What do pixels smell like?
EDIT![]()
In the morning they smell like victory?
kevin m
Veteran
In the morning they smell like victory?
Ah, the clean, fresh scent of victory, sweet!
Al Patterson
Ferroequinologist
Sarcasm alert....
Sarcasm alert....
Coloured pencils??? Die heretic!!!

Sarcasm alert....
DougK said:Al, you beat me to saying it, although I'll vote for colored pencils instead of Craoyla... hey, there's the next "X vs. Y" debate![]()
Coloured pencils??? Die heretic!!!
Al Patterson
Ferroequinologist
Sparrow said:Serious artists use oil pastels; more dynamic range, crayolas are for amateurs
That's good, because I can't draw beyond stick figures anyway. So why should I spend the extra money on a Leica.. er oil pastels anyway...
rogue_designer
Reciprocity Failure
I'm sure there is some trace off-gassing. Can't be good for you.

kevin m said:A more important question:
What do pixels smell like?
I spent many hours in the darkroom and developer, stop bath, fixer and toner all have a particular odor. But despite all my time using photoshop, I've never smelled a pixel.![]()
bohdan
-- Physicist
Actually, I've read a few papers about microscopic particules from inkjet printers.
wgerrard
Veteran
Well, most of the reaction here, being about crayons and mushrooms and such, is entirely besides the point, and therefore quite appropriate for such a weak piece.
The author pitches the piece to users of inexpensive digital P&S cameras. He outlines 5 issues that film cameras may or may not handle better than digital. He neglects to mention the names or prices of any film P&S cameras that a reader might actually stand a chance of buying at the local big box. Not terribly impressive.
The ads are fed to the page by Doubleclick, which is keying, I imagine, on the repeated use of the acronym "DSLR" in the article.
The author pitches the piece to users of inexpensive digital P&S cameras. He outlines 5 issues that film cameras may or may not handle better than digital. He neglects to mention the names or prices of any film P&S cameras that a reader might actually stand a chance of buying at the local big box. Not terribly impressive.
The ads are fed to the page by Doubleclick, which is keying, I imagine, on the repeated use of the acronym "DSLR" in the article.
Bill Blackwell
Leica M Shooter
wgerrard said:... He neglects to mention the names or prices of any film P&S cameras that a reader might actually stand a chance of buying at the local big box...
And what (new) film P&S camera could the writer of the article have pointed to that could be purchased at the local big box (or anywhere else for that matter)?
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