LChanyungco
Well-known
adonf
Member
Please, tell me this is a joke !!!
Every single detail is screwed up
LChanyungco
Well-known
i was afraid of this.. looks like its too late to cancel the payment.
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LChanyungco
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what gives it away ? for me it is the shutter release. in hindsight of course :bang:
Gabriel M.A.
My Red Dot Glows For You
...it certainly isn't Memorex
...it certainly isn't Memorex
The shutter dial and the rangefinder windows give it away. The letter engraving is "competently amateur" at best; the shutter button is also a giveaway.
Sorry.
Or not, if you are into FSU bodies that undergo "plastic surgery".
Aunque la mona se vista de seda, mona se queda.
...it certainly isn't Memorex
LChanyungco said:
The shutter dial and the rangefinder windows give it away. The letter engraving is "competently amateur" at best; the shutter button is also a giveaway.
Sorry.
Or not, if you are into FSU bodies that undergo "plastic surgery".
Aunque la mona se vista de seda, mona se queda.
trittium
Well-known
If it was sold as a leica, I would see if you can get out of it.
LChanyungco
Well-known
thanks everyone, Trit i'm trying my hardest to get out of it but the seller has not responded to any of my emails. do you think contacting paypal would help ?
BillP
Rangefinder General
LChanyungco said:
Yes.
Did you pay using paypal funds or a credit card through paypal? If the latter stop the credit card payment. Also contact eBay and report a fraudulent transaction.
Regards,
Bill
xayraa33
rangefinder user and fancier
hold your horses ,It looks to be a real Leica II.
the vf window has the lintel piece of a real Leica.
the shutter dial is the add on external flash sync cam type.
the shutter release guard is the accessory type popular in the US in the 1940s.
it looks to be the real McCoy.
the vf window has the lintel piece of a real Leica.
the shutter dial is the add on external flash sync cam type.
the shutter release guard is the accessory type popular in the US in the 1940s.
it looks to be the real McCoy.
dlove5
Established
I second that it is a real Leica
The shutter speed dial looks like a replacement one that includes a flash synch knob.
The shutter button shroud is exactly like one I used to have for my IIIa.
The shutter speed dial looks like a replacement one that includes a flash synch knob.
The shutter button shroud is exactly like one I used to have for my IIIa.
LChanyungco
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i paid via paypal using my bank acct...
oooh i hope you guys are right about the camera being genuine. but by now i have emailed the seller asking for my money back... but since she hasnt responded to any of my emails i'm wondering if this is some other kind of fraud. i'm a bit confused as to what steps to take next. please advise.
oooh i hope you guys are right about the camera being genuine. but by now i have emailed the seller asking for my money back... but since she hasnt responded to any of my emails i'm wondering if this is some other kind of fraud. i'm a bit confused as to what steps to take next. please advise.
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xayraa33
rangefinder user and fancier
Examine the front vf window metal stamping on the one you bought, to any Zorki 1 or Fed 1 picture on the net and you will see the FSU cameras are different to the Leica LTM body.
BillP
Rangefinder General
The shutter dial looks wrong. The rewind lever looks wrong. The engraving looks wrong. The platform under the shutter dial is the wrong shape. One of the screws is in the wrong place. The "vulcanite" looks like a stick-on fabric. The release guard is definitely an aftermarket addition. The serial number would make it a 1940 IIxayraa33 said:
Can you post the description?
Regards,
Bill
LChanyungco
Well-known
" Leica II D.R.P. Ernst Leitz Wetzler, screwmount rangefinder, serial # 352007 (1940) with Carl Zeiss lens Jena Nr. 3007216 Sonnar 1:2 f=5cm, and silver lens cap. Condition: Overall, very good operating condition, only normal wear, no scratches, gouges, bullet holes or shrapnel dings. 1 square inch of black leather-grained vulcanite missing on front side under lens. Brought back from WWII by relative and stored since 1951. No refunds. Shipping only within US. "
i hope its real... i like the serial number
i hope its real... i like the serial number
BillP
Rangefinder General
I'm sitting here with my Leica II to hand, and the Leica Pocket Book 7th Edition. The last observation I would make is that the viewfinder window frame is missing the notch that mine has, and the picture in the book has.
This is mine:
Regards,
Bill
This is mine:
Regards,
Bill
xayraa33
rangefinder user and fancier
BillP said:
I disagree Bill .
the shutter dial and shutter realease guard are all optional replacements that are legit for the time period.
most FSU camera fakers do not work the front vf window top lintel stamping to make it resemble the Leica front VF window.
all the screws look to be in the right place, and the stamping in the top view inc. the engraving look crisp and a dead ringer to the 1938 Leica III body that I am holding in my hand at present.
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xayraa33
rangefinder user and fancier
since the serial # is around circa 1940, the vf window outline would be like this one on this IIIb.
http://rafcamera.com/35mm/non-russian/leica-3b.htm
http://rafcamera.com/35mm/non-russian/leica-3b.htm
xayraa33
rangefinder user and fancier
here is a pic of a 1938 Leica II on this site.
notice the vf window shape is like what the OP camera pic has.
http://licm.org.uk/livingImage/Leica_II.html
notice the vf window shape is like what the OP camera pic has.
http://licm.org.uk/livingImage/Leica_II.html
Limpovitj
Established
It's a real Leica. Heck, I even think the lens is genuine!
dlove5
Established
Part of the problem in identifying a Leica II is that had a relatively long production span beginning in 1932 and some assembled as late as 1947/48. I was browsing several sources and I see the different VF windows. Then you throw in a few non standard parts and .... a fun discussion erupts..
Not to mention the real fakes!
Not to mention the real fakes!