Barry Goldwater

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Yes, I'll agree he was talented.

And I won't say he was a nutjob. He was conservative, but principled. Not like the neo-conservatives currently in power, who will visit the Attorney General while in intensive care, in hopes of pressuring him into abrogating part of the Bill of Rights. Goldwater was out of step with voters, just as George McGovern was in 1972. But both lost in landslides, and the victors didn't exactly distinguish themselves. Who knows how things might have turned out if either of them had been elected?
 
two thirds of the members of the John Birch Society supported Barry, the last one third supported Nixon.
Robert Welch Jr. was a Barry man for a while.
 
1) You mean the FDR that put Japanesse-Americans in concentration camps, and started a pre-emptive 'war' without Congressional approval in the Atlantic against the U-boats, and the guy who wanted to run rough-shod over the courts by stack the Supreme Court?

2) Maybe when Cheney said that he as going ot have to work in the shadows and the dark-side, he was talking about exploring Ansel's Zone system.
 
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