TimM
Member
Hello!
Just got a question about my Leica M4-2, because it has - below the usual "Leitz" - engraving a "Wetzlar" - engraving at the Top.
I bought it here, from a fellow RFF Member, and i'm quite curious about this - something special about it?
I'm just asking, because i want a camera which i can use without living in fear to "destroy" (rather replace it with scratch) an ultra rare collector item
Best!
Tim
Just got a question about my Leica M4-2, because it has - below the usual "Leitz" - engraving a "Wetzlar" - engraving at the Top.
I bought it here, from a fellow RFF Member, and i'm quite curious about this - something special about it?
I'm just asking, because i want a camera which i can use without living in fear to "destroy" (rather replace it with scratch) an ultra rare collector item
Best!
Tim
kbg32
neo-romanticist
I think that might be my M4-2 if you bought it from Memphis. You shouldn't have to worry about the M4-2. It is a great camera and can dish it out as well as take it.
TimM
Member
I bought it from Ron (Netherlands) - don't know if it was yours once 
awilder
Alan Wilder
I believe all M4-2's were made in Canada. The significance of the camera is that it saved the RF division of Leitz as the high production cost and poor sales of the M5 nearly bankrupted the company.
TimM
Member
Yes awilder - i know that, but the unusual thing is, that there isn't only a "Leitz" engraving.
kbg32
neo-romanticist
Does it say "Canada" on the back under the film advance lever??
awilder
Alan Wilder
I've seen pictures of the camera both ways. Try looking carefully at the body or leatherette covering to see if either Canada or Germany is engraved or embossed. Also keep in mind that midway through it's production, Leica removed the condenser lens in the frameline mask to economize production. The minor logo difference may coincide with this internal change, but I'm only speculating.
TimM
Member
Does it say "Canada" on the back under the film advance lever??
Yes - it says "Made by Leitz Canada"
erikhaugsby
killer of threads
Is it a black paint, black chrome, or chrome body? Maybe pictures of the front, top, and back would help.
Where is the seller when you need him?
Where is the seller when you need him?
kbg32
neo-romanticist
M4-2s only, as I know them, were available in chrome or black chrome. No black paint.
TimM
Member
Two Pics - hope, they work!


Bill Blackwell
Leica M Shooter
Just got a question about my Leica M4-2, because it has - below the usual "Leitz" - engraving a "Wetzlar" - engraving at the Top...
Only the first batch had this (less than 1000 cameras).
Some had "Made in Canada" engraved on the topcover (just above the hot shoe), others have come variation of "Made in Canada" on the back). Yours is one of the rarer variations.
For a time "Leitz Wetzlar" was synonymous with the Leitz trademark.
TimM
Member
Only the first batch had this (less than 1000 cameras).
Some had "Made in Canada" engraved on the topcover (just above the hot shoe), others have come variation of "Made in Canada" on the back). Yours is one of the rarer variations.
For a time "Leitz Wetzlar" was synonymous with the Leitz trademark.
Hum - anyone interested in buying/trading?
Don't need a "collectors edition"... because i know myself - i won't dare to take it with me on "hard adventures" i guess...might be wrong as well..
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SolaresLarrave
My M5s need red dots!
Hmmm... depends on what you want for it...
Ron (Netherlands)
Well-known
It is actually this camera which I sold to Tim. I made many photo's with it. It is a very fine camera, every works well. I always used a Leica case, therefore it is still in an excellent cosmetic condition. I bought it once from an Australian RFF member but forgot about his name.
vieri
Leica Ambassador
Hum - anyone interested in buying/trading?
Don't need a "collectors edition"... because i know myself - i won't dare to take it with me on "hard adventures" i guess...might be wrong as well..
PM me if serious
Tom A
RFF Sponsor
M4-2s only, as I know them, were available in chrome or black chrome. No black paint.
A M4-2 in chrome is very rare. There was only about 30 made of them. It was a special order for a store in Los Angeles. There was 30 chrome 35f2 Summicrons (iv) "custom ordered" too. There has been some replicas of this camera made from surplus top plates.
The very first M4-2 had a red Leica decal on the front (similar to the M4P) and you can identify it by # number (not the safest way as the shoe which has the number engraved on it is easily interchanged). However, the take up drive connection for the M4-2 winder on the first 100 only had only 1 cut-out for the drive.
Leica Midland did engrave various M4-2's with Wetzlar and Made in Canada tops. Somewhat bewildering to the buyers than and now as Midland (now owned by Rayethon) does not keep any documentation on the various M4-2 models - or they will not answer questions about them).
cmogi10
Bodhisattva
Keep it! use it! It's just a camera.
TimM
Member
Keep it! use it! It's just a camera.
After thinking one more night about it - i will do so - because i really like the camera. (greetings to ron!)
Think, it was just a very alluring idea, because i'm surely one of the younger ones here (age: 22) and a student...
Anyway - thanks to all for the help
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Rob-F
Likes Leicas
Just get a Luigi case if you don't want to bang it up. That is one case that does not get in the way of shooting. It does get in the way of changing film, of course. I don't know of any case that allows film loading while the case is on the camera. But it is not difficult. You can see a Luigi case on my M2, in my avatar.
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