david b
film shooter
At what point, won't you buy the new and very exciting Fuji / Voigtlander 667.
I know this is all speculation, but I suspect there are people watching the threads here and on APUG about this camera.
Obviously we want it made, but...
I know this is all speculation, but I suspect there are people watching the threads here and on APUG about this camera.
Obviously we want it made, but...
Tuolumne
Veteran
$1,500 would be too high for me to do without very serious thought. $1250 would be JUST right.
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Colman
Established
Where's the option for "At $1000 I'll want one, but won't be able to afford it any time soon" and "At $3k I won't even want one"?
David Goldfarb
Well-known
Definitely at $1000, maybe at $1500, not likely at $2000, definitely not at $3000.
Andrew Sowerby
Well-known
I picked "Definitely at $1500" but that comes with the qualification that the camera works well (no significant QC issues). I would probably wait six months or so to see how that played out.
Avotius
Some guy
I think we are looking more at the 1500 price point because it seems lately the newer voigtlander stuff is coming out with progressively higher prices, and here we are getting a camera and a lens so it seems that it will go for a lot.
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wlewisiii
Guest
Definite at $1000 probable at $1500. Can't do anything beyond as even those points would be painful for our household.
William
William
Tuolumne
Veteran
Although I said $1250 would be the sweet spot, are we being realistic here? A MF camera with a high quality lens in a folder would have to be priced closer to $2000 than $1000 these days. Hell, $3K wouldn't surprise me either. Look what a new Rolleiflex goes for.
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Matus
Well-known
A price significatnly over 1000 EURO will put me out of the game. Well - let's see - we have 2 - 3 months more to hope.
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wlewisiii
Guest
True enough but what we don't know is the margin on that Rollie is these days. Does it really have to go for that price? Likewise, if the construction of the 667 is kept fairly plain, does that imply that it must cost lots? This is a company that sold a whole lot of R & 35/2.5 lenses for a really reasonable amount.
Even with better QC and the larger format, I'm still prepared to hope that we're closer to R territory than 2.8FX territory
William
Even with better QC and the larger format, I'm still prepared to hope that we're closer to R territory than 2.8FX territory
William
irq506
just curious
I know a thousand dollars isn't what it used to be, but its still a sh*t ton of money for most of us, and even at that I wouldn't pay that much for it. I would max out at seven fifty.
cmogi10
Bodhisattva
I know a thousand dollars isn't what it used to be, but its still a sh*t ton of money for most of us, and even at that I wouldn't pay that much for it. I would max out at seven fifty.
that's how I feel about this camera. I think it would be cool to have but would I use it for my work? probably no more way more often then yes.
Would it be a fun thing to have around? sure. But there are a whole lot of more useful things to spend 1000 dollars and up on for me.
Scott Ridgeway
Newbie
I'll definitely own one if the actual cost is under $1200. At $1500, it's a maybe. At $2000, it's not worth it to me. I'd just as soon pick up another Mamiya 7II. Whatever the quoted retail price is, the actual sell price is always considerably less. We'll see.
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Things to Consider
Things to Consider
1) There is a reason no other camera maker has produced a 120 film 6x7 folder in decades. The market for the camera is considered to be very small -- too small for most camera makers to take the investment chance on. From Cosina and Fujica's standpoint, they are taking a big chance to satisfy a pent up niche demand. While they don't want to over charge, the bean counters want to make sure they make a profit with this new camera line.
2) Unlike the Cosina made Voigtlander 35mm Bessas, most if not all the tooling for the Fuji/Bessa III is NEW and not shared with any other camera. So far as I know, this includes the optics as well. That translates into higher per unit cost.
3) You can be sure the price will be carefully considered to maximize long term sales and popularity. However with no other product lilne to share the new 120 folder costs with, the price will likely be higher proportionally than the very economically priced 35mm Voigtlander Bessas. That said, I make no specific price prediction and await further news from Fujica and Voigtlander.
Stephen
Things to Consider
1) There is a reason no other camera maker has produced a 120 film 6x7 folder in decades. The market for the camera is considered to be very small -- too small for most camera makers to take the investment chance on. From Cosina and Fujica's standpoint, they are taking a big chance to satisfy a pent up niche demand. While they don't want to over charge, the bean counters want to make sure they make a profit with this new camera line.
2) Unlike the Cosina made Voigtlander 35mm Bessas, most if not all the tooling for the Fuji/Bessa III is NEW and not shared with any other camera. So far as I know, this includes the optics as well. That translates into higher per unit cost.
3) You can be sure the price will be carefully considered to maximize long term sales and popularity. However with no other product lilne to share the new 120 folder costs with, the price will likely be higher proportionally than the very economically priced 35mm Voigtlander Bessas. That said, I make no specific price prediction and await further news from Fujica and Voigtlander.
Stephen
dazedgonebye
Veteran
Twice the price of the R4A.
wayneb
Established
Yeah I have to agree with cirque's comment - while it looks great and I really want one, ebay seems to have newish/used Mamiya 7 for $1200.
Solinar
Analog Preferred
At $1500 it would be a real iffy purchase on my part. At $1200 or less I would be more likely to purchase the Bessa III.
According to the Federal Reserve a camera that sold for $150 new in 1950 would cost approximately $1342.00 if it was built today.
A Crown Graphic 23 with a Tessar sold for approximately $275 back in the early 1950's.
According to the Federal Reserve a camera that sold for $150 new in 1950 would cost approximately $1342.00 if it was built today.
A Crown Graphic 23 with a Tessar sold for approximately $275 back in the early 1950's.
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Harry Lime
Practitioner
From Cosina and Fujica's standpoint, they are taking a big chance to satisfy a pent up niche demand. While they don't want to over charge, the bean counters want to make sure they make a profit with this new camera line.
Is the camera made in China, Japan or else where?
thanks,
HL
tonyc
Established
according to the video
http://trendy.nikkeibp.co.jp/article/pickup/20080929/1019183/?P=2
the man wearing the tie says it will cost
300,000 Yen.
-TC
http://trendy.nikkeibp.co.jp/article/pickup/20080929/1019183/?P=2
the man wearing the tie says it will cost
300,000 Yen.
-TC
Ernst Dinkla
Well-known
according to the video
http://trendy.nikkeibp.co.jp/article/pickup/20080929/1019183/?P=2
the man wearing the tie says it will cost
300,000 Yen.
-TC
Interesting, that's more or less the price of a recent digital FF body: 5D MKII, D700, A900.
Ernst Dinkla
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