micromontenegro
Well-known
I am really, really excited about the new Fuji, but if it is priced anywhere remotely near a Mamiya 7 body, it would be very unreasonable indeed for me to buy one. It is, after all, a fixed lens, knob advance bellows camera.
shadowfox
Darkroom printing lives
2) Unlike the Cosina made Voigtlander 35mm Bessas, most if not all the tooling for the Fuji/Bessa III is NEW and not shared with any other camera. So far as I know, this includes the optics as well. That translates into higher per unit cost.
... translation (loosely of course
dazedgonebye
Veteran
I am really, really excited about the new Fuji, but if it is priced anywhere remotely near a Mamiya 7 body, it would be very unreasonable indeed for me to buy one. It is, after all, a fixed lens, knob advance bellows camera.
I'm fine with the knob advance and I like the bellows.
Fixed lens is a good point of course.
Yes, this camera must stay away from the Mamiya 7 price wise.
jwhitley
Established
In my case, the "competition" for this camera is an M-mount RF body (ZI or an R4* for example) plus additional lens(es) to fill out to my small existing LTM/M-mount set. I've got a Bessa T, which is lovely for the wides, but I really do miss not having an integrated RF/VF.
The higher the price point of the Voigtländer 667, the more likely I'll just stick with the M-mount solution. At $3000, the 667 would be out of the running for 2009 -- too many other competing photographic concerns.
The higher the price point of the Voigtländer 667, the more likely I'll just stick with the M-mount solution. At $3000, the 667 would be out of the running for 2009 -- too many other competing photographic concerns.
Andyrew
Newbie
At $3000US or £1850GBP, I can buy a much better mf SYSTEM camera.
If Fuji/Cosina choose this price point I believe this camera will die a very sudden death. (Of course I could be wrong and it could become a fashion item for those with more money than sense)
If Fuji/Cosina choose this price point I believe this camera will die a very sudden death. (Of course I could be wrong and it could become a fashion item for those with more money than sense)
PMCC
Late adopter.
There's also the issue of the resurgent yen, which is running strong against the dollar (and other important currencies). In this economic climate, many buyers will be very cautious about discretionary expenditures. Price sensitivity will be very high.
sooner
Well-known
$2-3,000? That's insane. Aren't cameras often priced higher in Japan than for export? I can't believe they would charge that much. I'm with those of you who say for that money, might as well go with a Mamiya 7, which is also out of my budget.
Rayt
Nonplayer Character
With the Yen's inevitable drop and after the usual discount the 300,000 Yen list price may very well become a $2000 street price. Not terrible attractive as many has said the Mamiya 7 is plenty good at that price range but if the lens, fit & finish of the body are attractive enough then I can probably sell a Leica lens and pick this one up.
PMCC
Late adopter.
With the Yen's inevitable drop and after the usual discount the 300,000 Yen list price may very well become a $2000 street price. Not terrible attractive as many has said the Mamiya 7 is plenty good at that price range but if the lens, fit & finish of the body are attractive enough then I can probably sell a Leica lens and pick this one up.
Reminds me of the time my kid came home and told me he bought a dog after I had told him we couldn't afford one.
"How much was it?" I asked.
He said, "It's a $50,000 dog."
"$50,000?" I said, shocked. "How did you pay for it?"
"It was easy Dad. I traded two $25,000 cats for it."
Debusti Paolo
Well-known
I HOPE PRICES ARE IN USD !!!!!!
aizan
Veteran
ugh, when are they going to announce a price and release date? i really want to use this for the last projects of class.
RainerV
Member
Fred Burton
Well-known
Right at $2,000 USD, at the moment. That's pretty pricey.
RainerV
Member
Hi Fred,
german prices always include 19% VAT and very often are much higher than US prices.
Rainer
german prices always include 19% VAT and very often are much higher than US prices.
Rainer
ray*j*gun
Veteran
It's laughable. I won't be stepping up at $2000. for what looks like a plastic folder.
Ray
Ray
Fred Burton
Well-known
Well, Rainer, that's good news. I'll expect to see the Fuji at $500 USD, then! 
micromontenegro
Well-known
It's laughable. I won't be stepping up at $2000. for what looks like a plastic folder.
Ray
Hear hear !
RainerV
Member
Hmm Fred, maybe a little bit too optimistic.
Rainer
Rainer
PATB
Established
At $1,500, I would rather get another Mamiya 7II on the evil auction site.
Platinum RF
Well-known
If more than $700,. no I will not buy one at that price, there is more option at >$1000, nice Hass 500CM set around that price range.
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