Leica Gold M4-P with Gold 50/2 Summicron 70th Jahres

[rlouzan]

http://cgi.ebay.com/Leica-Gold-M4-P...14&_trkparms=72:1234|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318

http://kevincameras.com/gallery/albvo39?page=1

 

[NIKON KIU]

I think we all know about Kevin Cameras.

Are you buying?

Kiu

 

[rlouzan]

No, I´ve seen several gold M4-2 cameras but never a factory gold M4-P. How about you?

Regards,
RLouzan

 

[NIKON KIU]

I am NIKON KIU, Soooo I don't know the difference between a Leica M4-2 or M4-P

Are you implying it may be fake?

Kiu

 

[maddoc]

There is still a complete set of parts available at Ebay to convert an M4-P in black / gold (with black top and base plate and golden levers etc.) but I haven't seen a set of golden top and base plates yet for the M4-P (only for the M4-2)...

 

[erikhaugsby]

I'd be put off by the fact that there isn't a serial number stamped on the hot shoe.

appendum: well, there is a numbered sticker inside the base plate. still...

 

[rlouzan]

The camera was most likely a prototype, but that is what got me wondering too. Take a look at the snake skin leatherette and screws.

Tonaya´s parts are probably for a gold M4-2 (she doesn´t have a very good reputation - among some RFF members.)


http://cgi.ebay.com/681-LEICA-PARTS...15234QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262

There is still a complete set of parts available at Ebay to convert an M4-P in black / gold (with black top and base plate and golden levers etc.) but I haven't seen a set of golden top and base plates yet for the M4-P (only for the M4-2)...

 

[NIKON KIU]

From what I know now, this looks like a M4-P someone gold plated!
prototype? I wouldn't call it that unless there was some proof!

If it was a prototype do you think Kevin would sell it for $7K?

Kiu

 

[rlouzan]

Description : metal tag stamp "ERNSTLEITZ CANADA LTD,serial no.053,made in Canada",same leather finish as Gold M4-2,same gold finish also,may be test camera before went to public,definity done inside Leica factoty
Remark : W/Presentation Case,Gold Cap
Grade : M-

From what I know now, this looks like a M4-P someone gold plated!
prototype? I wouldn't call it that unless there was some proof!

If it was a prototype do you think Kevin would sell it for $7K?

Kiu

 

[Bill Blackwell]

There is no question in my mind this is a gold-plated (after-market) 70th Anniversary M4-P. And the numbered "metal tag stamp" stuck under the base plate right on top of the film-loading diagram does not impress me.

 

[Bill Blackwell]

I forgot to mention that the lens is not even of the same vintage as the 70th Anniversary body - so they can't possibly be a factory matched set.

 

[Tuolumne]

I have a near-mint chrome one with matching 50mm Summicron lens (also engraved "50 jahre...). I bought the set off eBay about 2 years ago for ~$2K. It's a lovely camera and lens. Very smooth and classy. Of course, the engravings don't make it take any better pictures but they're nice.

/T

 

[edodo]

I am not really sure but 7 grands for this combo seems overated, even with the precious plating. I think I saw one a year ago same as this but for around 2 & 1/2 grands.

 

[Tuolumne]

The gold plate actually makes it look ugly in the photos.

/T

 

[edodo]

seems they are many after market plated M's
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=Mzqkuvn4yD8&feature=related

 

[Atom]

I think we all know about Kevin Cameras.

Kiu

I am not familiar with Kevin Cameras. I do practically no ebay shopping. Would someone mind explaining what this means?

 

[rlouzan]

Only that he is a well known and respected dealer🙂.

I am not familiar with Kevin Cameras. I do practically no ebay shopping. Would someone mind explaining what this means?

 

[Atom]

OK, I was reading into it like it was a bad thing.

 

[NIKON KIU]

Only that he is a well known and respected dealer🙂.

And a little uninformed when it comes to gold Leicas... 😀

Kiu

 

[gdi]

Only that he is a well known and respected dealer🙂.

I would not recommend him, I had quite a bad experience with him.