rlouzan
Well-known
NIKON KIU
Did you say Nippon Kogaku
I think we all know about Kevin Cameras.
Are you buying?
Kiu
Are you buying?
Kiu
rlouzan
Well-known
No, I´ve seen several gold M4-2 cameras but never a factory gold M4-P. How about you?
Regards,
RLouzan
Regards,
RLouzan
NIKON KIU
Did you say Nippon Kogaku
I am NIKON KIU, Soooo I don't know the difference between a Leica M4-2 or M4-P
Are you implying it may be fake?
Kiu
Are you implying it may be fake?
Kiu
maddoc
... likes film again.
There is still a complete set of parts available at Ebay to convert an M4-P in black / gold (with black top and base plate and golden levers etc.) but I haven't seen a set of golden top and base plates yet for the M4-P (only for the M4-2)...
erikhaugsby
killer of threads
I'd be put off by the fact that there isn't a serial number stamped on the hot shoe.
appendum: well, there is a numbered sticker inside the base plate. still...
appendum: well, there is a numbered sticker inside the base plate. still...
rlouzan
Well-known
The camera was most likely a prototype, but that is what got me wondering too. Take a look at the snake skin leatherette and screws.
Tonaya´s parts are probably for a gold M4-2 (she doesn´t have a very good reputation - among some RFF members.)
http://cgi.ebay.com/681-LEICA-PARTS...15234QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262
Tonaya´s parts are probably for a gold M4-2 (she doesn´t have a very good reputation - among some RFF members.)
http://cgi.ebay.com/681-LEICA-PARTS...15234QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262
There is still a complete set of parts available at Ebay to convert an M4-P in black / gold (with black top and base plate and golden levers etc.) but I haven't seen a set of golden top and base plates yet for the M4-P (only for the M4-2)...
NIKON KIU
Did you say Nippon Kogaku
From what I know now, this looks like a M4-P someone gold plated!
prototype? I wouldn't call it that unless there was some proof!
If it was a prototype do you think Kevin would sell it for $7K?
Kiu
prototype? I wouldn't call it that unless there was some proof!
If it was a prototype do you think Kevin would sell it for $7K?
Kiu
rlouzan
Well-known
Description : metal tag stamp "ERNSTLEITZ CANADA LTD,serial no.053,made in Canada",same leather finish as Gold M4-2,same gold finish also,may be test camera before went to public,definity done inside Leica factoty
Remark : W/Presentation Case,Gold Cap
Grade : M-
Remark : W/Presentation Case,Gold Cap
Grade : M-
From what I know now, this looks like a M4-P someone gold plated!
prototype? I wouldn't call it that unless there was some proof!
If it was a prototype do you think Kevin would sell it for $7K?
Kiu
Bill Blackwell
Leica M Shooter
There is no question in my mind this is a gold-plated (after-market) 70th Anniversary M4-P. And the numbered "metal tag stamp" stuck under the base plate right on top of the film-loading diagram does not impress me.
Bill Blackwell
Leica M Shooter
I forgot to mention that the lens is not even of the same vintage as the 70th Anniversary body - so they can't possibly be a factory matched set.
Tuolumne
Veteran
I have a near-mint chrome one with matching 50mm Summicron lens (also engraved "50 jahre...). I bought the set off eBay about 2 years ago for ~$2K. It's a lovely camera and lens. Very smooth and classy. Of course, the engravings don't make it take any better pictures but they're nice.
/T
/T
edodo
Well-known
I am not really sure but 7 grands for this combo seems overated, even with the precious plating. I think I saw one a year ago same as this but for around 2 & 1/2 grands.
Tuolumne
Veteran
The gold plate actually makes it look ugly in the photos.
/T
/T
edodo
Well-known
seems they are many after market plated M's
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=Mzqkuvn4yD8&feature=related
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=Mzqkuvn4yD8&feature=related
Atom
Molecular.Atom
I think we all know about Kevin Cameras.
Kiu
I am not familiar with Kevin Cameras. I do practically no ebay shopping. Would someone mind explaining what this means?
rlouzan
Well-known
Only that he is a well known and respected dealer
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I am not familiar with Kevin Cameras. I do practically no ebay shopping. Would someone mind explaining what this means?
Atom
Molecular.Atom
OK, I was reading into it like it was a bad thing.
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