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i might have this mixed up a bit...

was there a 21 finder made for the rd1, like the 12 and 15 finders?

if not, would a 28 or a 35 mm finder (made for film use) be the better one to use with a 21mm lens?

the 28 finder would mean that i would shoot a bit tight and the 35 means i would be framing a bit loose?

if you use a 21 what finder do you use?

joe
 
Voigtlander used to sell a special 'D' 21mm VF for the R-D1 but it is now discontinued AFAIK.
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I don't use external VFs personally but the Voigtlander 28/35 Mini-Finder is often praised by R-D1 users.
See http://www.cameraquest.com/voigtlander_2835_RicohEpson.htm
 
i thought there was a cv 21 d finder.

so, anyone use a finder for 28 or 35 when using a 21mm lens?

i actually got the CV finder with a 21mm lens when i bought the Epson. it's fairly big but gorgeous. i prefer not to use it, though i may change my mind when i get my SA. if you like big bright viewfinders then this is the bomb!
 
I use a 28mm finder that I got with my Ricoh GRD. Works fine. Very bright. Also has 21mm lines which I imagine would work well with the cv 15mm.

Cheers - John
 
Get a CV 28mm metal finder (the bigger one). Really, really good, hardly any barreling and nicer than the plastic finders.

Cheers,

Roland.
 
so, to be clear, you shoot a 21 with no finder?

i'm thinking about doing the same.
joe

You know Joe, with the quick turn-around of images shot with the RD1 you could test the effectiveness of using the whole in-camera viewfinder. ;)
That reads more smart a**ed than I intend, but that is the beauty of your new camera. I did a similar test to find if my 50's focused with more accuracy when come from infinity to the focus point or vice versa.
Quick and simple turn around.

--michael
 
You know Joe, with the quick turn-around of images shot with the RD1 you could test the effectiveness of using the whole in-camera viewfinder. ;)
That reads more smart a**ed than I intend, but that is the beauty of your new camera. I did a similar test to find if my 50's focused with more accuracy when come from infinity to the focus point or vice versa.
Quick and simple turn around.

--michael

completely understood and i agree. that's the reason i think i could live without the finder.
joe
 
The 28 finder is a little too wide but 35 is too narrow for my taste to use with a 21mm lens. So I have a Leica metal finder which I taped up a bit to mask pretty accurately. And if needed I check on the screen if the content works out in the frame.
Full frame covers about the 25mm lens fov on the R-D1.
 
I'm using a 28 metal finder as well but I find that I'm getting better and better at just using the internal finder instead. It does take some getting used to though.
 
Hi Joe, i bought a 35 finder for getting the right FOV with a 25mm lens on the RD1. It was bright and clear, like looking through a new window, buy made the camera less discreet. I did'nt like that.
Maybe i would prefer a smaller one, like the 28/35 mini finder, and if you are going to use it for a 21 the 28 framelines are better i think.
The finder, however, is easy to use with wides because you can estimate the focus getting very accurate framing.

I tried to use the 25 also without finder but i had some problems to get precise framing. Yes, you can make pictures as well but knowing that many of them will be not so accurate. That's my experience.
 
Another recommendation for shooting without the external viewfinder.

The internal viewfinder is more convenient, your set is smaller, you are able to focus and compose without moving the camera. It's not even that difficult to get used to the extra space outside internal viewfinders borders. It also helps that the R-D1 viewfinder is 1:1.

Plus you save quite a lot of money which can be used in something more important.
 
so, to be clear, you shoot a 21 with no finder? i'm thinking about doing the same...
I have a CV finder in my bag but i don't use it actually as i shoot both eyes open so it's not difficult to guestimate the right FoV with a bit of habit. Now the whole in-camera VF is not large enough for one eye shooters IMHO.
 
I tried to shoot my 21 Skopar without external finder, but did'nt find it very convenient. Just a few weeks after having bought the lens, I found a used CV 21mm external finder at a local photo shop and bought it. Since then, I use it to frame, and estimate the fov by removing the external edges.

I find it much easier that way, and it allows me to use the finder on my M2 when I'm shooting film.
 
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