Ronald M
Veteran
90 Elmars are nice sharpe lenses if in good condition. Uncoated ones tend to be rougher and need maintenance compared to newer coated ones. You will need to stop to 5.6 to get critically sharp pics.
Cmpared to modern lenses, they lack microcontrast so fine details like skin texture are not as prominent as with newer glass. Uncoated ones have less shadow detail and what is there is lower contrast. Over exposed highlights will block faster. I have done the test side by side and that is what I found.
The latest 90 4.0 images like the 90 AA Summicron.
So you have your choice on how you want the pic rendered.
Cmpared to modern lenses, they lack microcontrast so fine details like skin texture are not as prominent as with newer glass. Uncoated ones have less shadow detail and what is there is lower contrast. Over exposed highlights will block faster. I have done the test side by side and that is what I found.
The latest 90 4.0 images like the 90 AA Summicron.
So you have your choice on how you want the pic rendered.
David Hughes
David Hughes
Oooh! An SE5a! Very nice. Shame the DOF tells me it's an RC-model though![]()
OK is this a real SE5a?

It was taken with a real IIIa and a real Summitar. You want to see it flying...
Regards, David
brainwood
Registered Film User
Hmmmm...If you look very closely you can see the peg where the rubber band attaches....love to see a flying shot though
Cheers Chris
Cheers Chris
Ezzie
E. D. Russell Roberts
What´s the minimum focus on the 90/f4 Elmar?
FPjohn
Well-known
Minimum focus distance is 100cm.
yours
FPJ
yours
FPJ
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David Hughes
David Hughes
Hmmmm...If you look very closely you can see the peg where the rubber band attaches....love to see a flying shot though
Cheers Chris
Hi, It should be flying on the 4th and I hope to be there. See:- http://www.shuttleworth.org/events.asp
and look at the "Autumn Air Display" provisional programme.
Watching this fly I often want to be a lot younger and filthy rich...
Regards, David
brainwood
Registered Film User
David
That's very tempting. I know the Shuttleworth collection well as its less than a hour away but sadly can't make the 4th. Strangely enough my SE5a shots were taken there as well.
Have fun
Chris
That's very tempting. I know the Shuttleworth collection well as its less than a hour away but sadly can't make the 4th. Strangely enough my SE5a shots were taken there as well.
Have fun
Chris
Rogrund
Antti Sivén
Mr_Flibble
In Tabulas Argenteas Refero
I just love WW1-era fighter aircraft. Unfortunately there aren't that many nearby. The closest replica's are probably at the Aviodrome, and the closest original aircraft are at the Brussels Army Museum.
Luddite Frank
Well-known
I just love WW1-era fighter aircraft. Unfortunately there aren't that many nearby. The closest replica's are probably at the Aviodrome, and the closest original aircraft are at the Brussels Army Museum.
Mr Flibble,
If you ever get the chance to visit the northeast US, visit the "Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome", in the Hudson River Valley of New York.
I believe they house the largest collection of Pre WW-II aircraft, including some WW I-era (in flying condition), and even a 1909 or '10 Bleriot mono-plane, which they will fly when the wind isn't too strong.
One of the jewels in the collection is an authentic replica (built from the factory plans) of a Fokker dVII, powered by an original Maybach(?) dVII engine.
They have flying shows on weekends from May through September, I believe.
Regards,
Luddite Frank
brainwood
Registered Film User
Frank
The collection certainly looks very impressive. IF I ever manage to get near that part of world then a visit will be a must
For now I have to be satisfied with the clips on Youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=041KXih6O0c
is the Fokker DVII and Spad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAyIh1SUOWk
is there fanastic replica 1910 Hanriot
The cinephotography (if thats what it is ) is lousy but what the hell! its youtube
er ...isnt this a thread about the excellent Elmar f4 ???
I guess if I ever get there the lens of choice will be my Elmar.
Cheers
Chris
The collection certainly looks very impressive. IF I ever manage to get near that part of world then a visit will be a must
For now I have to be satisfied with the clips on Youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=041KXih6O0c
is the Fokker DVII and Spad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAyIh1SUOWk
is there fanastic replica 1910 Hanriot
The cinephotography (if thats what it is ) is lousy but what the hell! its youtube
er ...isnt this a thread about the excellent Elmar f4 ???
I guess if I ever get there the lens of choice will be my Elmar.
Cheers
Chris
brainwood
Registered Film User

...and no its not a real aircraft
Cheers
Chris
MartinP
Veteran
...and no its not a real aircraft
Cheers
Chris
Ohhhh, but it is ! That flies doesn't it ?
Of course, it is certainly not man-carrying though. Not so many years ago many teenagers (like me) used to build things like that, in the days before computer games, sighhhhh.
brainwood
Registered Film User
MartinP
some of us still do !! Though I am sadly not a teenager - just a closet aeromodeller
Chris
some of us still do !! Though I am sadly not a teenager - just a closet aeromodeller
Chris
Mr_Flibble
In Tabulas Argenteas Refero
Slight delay down to scanning the last 1.5 rolls worth of negatives from the Roll On the Meuse tour from earlier this month, there's a few shots of a B-25 Mitchel called the "Duke of Brabant" in Maastricht, which I took with my Leica IIIa and a 90mm Elmar
David Hughes
David Hughes
Well, here's a Blériot Type XI of 1909 flying at Shuttleworth.
Start planning the 2010 trip now; Shuttleworth is fairly near Duxford and in the summer you can do one each weekend at times...
They often have older planes there doing short joy flights. We were in an elderly DH Rapide a few weeks ago and did a couple of circuits round and about. Say about 10 to 15 minutes in the air.
Regards, David

Start planning the 2010 trip now; Shuttleworth is fairly near Duxford and in the summer you can do one each weekend at times...
They often have older planes there doing short joy flights. We were in an elderly DH Rapide a few weeks ago and did a couple of circuits round and about. Say about 10 to 15 minutes in the air.
Regards, David
Ezzie
E. D. Russell Roberts
Boy has this thread derailed. Interesting though.
Ezzie
E. D. Russell Roberts
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...and no its not a real aircraft
Cheers
Chris
And isn´t that a Lysander?
David Hughes
David Hughes
Boy has this thread derailed. Interesting though.
Hi,
Well, what more can be said about an Elmar that hasn't been said a million times? And I like to see old things flying, taking pictures or just contributing to forums...
Regards, David
brainwood
Registered Film User
David
Im sure I will visit shuttleworth again next year for a flying show. Give me a heads up nearer the time and we could always meet up I seem to remember the flying evenings being rather good, just need to remember the fast film stock
Ezzie -It looks like Lysander to me too. It flew beautifully on it's rubber motor. It's 'peanut' scale I think which means it's just 13" across
Im sure I will visit shuttleworth again next year for a flying show. Give me a heads up nearer the time and we could always meet up I seem to remember the flying evenings being rather good, just need to remember the fast film stock
Ezzie -It looks like Lysander to me too. It flew beautifully on it's rubber motor. It's 'peanut' scale I think which means it's just 13" across
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