Getting a Film Camera again..Advice?

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I want a 35mm f/1,2 Nokton Or F/1.4, not sure on the body...R3 or R2...
Does the .7x VF of the R2 have whats needed to focus at f/1.2? Or just use the R3 40mm frame and don't get all up in a wad about it. Right now, I don't plan on adding more lenses.

Just want a fast Film RF for candid street and indoor candid family stuff for any time of day or night. It's so much easier to carry a RF with a wide lens and no flash, than a larger DSLR with wide lens.
I have come into an inheritance, and need to spend it :D.
I am completing my DSLR outfit with 3 primes and battery grip for my K20d (21/L, 77/L, DA 100mm Macro)..But I want a RF too. I have a film scanner, so cost will be low, about $7.00 a roll total.
 
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Double Negative said:
Personally, I'd go with a used Ikon and the 1,2/35 Nokton. Between the huge and uncluttered VF, wide baseline and the Nokton you'll be in heaven. Just keep in mind that the Nokton is a touch on the larger, heavier side (though nothing to worry about). I find the character and bokeh of this lens so much nicer than the 1,4/35 Nokton. But if size and weight are important, the latter would make a nice combo as well, albeit slightly slower.
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I have looked at the Zeiss also. And it is still on my list...but so is used M6ttl, Not sure on what I want to spend yet, but $2k is not unreasonable for what I want.

Total size may be factor, so the 35/1.4 is more compact. and what I read about both, the extra stop may be the real difference, since the IQ seems par for both.
 
You may find it difficult to focus the 35/1.2 up close and wide open on the R* bodies, given the short base length. The ZI or a Leica M would probably be better. Just a thought.
 
Jezz why not stick with the program get a good clean M6 and 40/2 Cron or Rokkor or 40/1.4 VC and call it done for $14-1500? At least it will be small enough to carry more often and the image quality will be significantly different from the K20D. The difference between f/1.2 and 1.4 or 2 means that your 1.4/2 images will be in focus more often.

I used to think lens speed was important for low light but I was wrong. Shooting in low light w a f/2 or f/2.8 will often produce sharper, less missed focus pictures than the uber fancy f/1.4 or 1.2. The extra stopping down helps a lot, and once your shutter speed drops so low you can't shoot handheld, it's usually only for a few moments before it gets really dark.
 
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Bingley said:
You may find it difficult to focus the 35/1.2 up close and wide open on the R* bodies, given the short base length. The ZI or a Leica M would probably be better. Just a thought.
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I guess, that's why I included the R3..with the 1:1 VF..but, still the same base, just a bigger image.

The Zeiss looks nice. at $1618.00, I'd get the 35/1.4 to keep it under $2k.
 
Frank Petronio said:
Jezz why not stick with the program get a good clean M6 and 40/2 Cron or Rokkor or 40/1.4 VC and call it done for $14-1500? At least it will be small enough to carry more often and the image quality will be significantly different from the K20D. The difference between f/1.2 and 1.4 means that your 1.4 will be in focus more often .
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The M6 is on my list too.(about the same as a new Z1)...Used for sure!.. But I want a 35mm, not the 40mm any f/stop.
 
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DNG said:
Is there anything special about a Limited Edition Z1? A German Seller has a few for $1,550 USD + Shipping. eBay seller shphoto-gmbh
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No. They were just the first run of the sliver Ikons. I think the serial number denotes this. I wouldn't buy one as Zeiss has made a few improvements to the reliability of the cameras since. Better to get a new one if possible.
 
shphoto-gmbh is quite expensive ...

Why not a M6(TTL) + any kind of 35mm Summicron-M ? Should be available for < 2.000USD and is the most versatile set-up.



DNG said:
Is there anything special about a Limited Edition Z1? A German Seller has a few for $1,550 USD + Shipping. eBay seller shphoto-gmbh
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maddoc said:
shphoto-gmbh is quite expensive ...

Why not a M6(TTL) + any kind of 35mm Summicron-M ? Should be available for < 2.000USD and is the most versatile set-up.
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What is difference between the M6 and M6TTL? The Leica Sight has no info on out of production cameras
 
Double Negative said:
The M6 "Classic" is a sweet rig for sure.

Do you ever use aperture priority? If not, that opens up your choices quite a bit.
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Well, I am considering it, and the M7 at KEH is just under $1,900 in EX+, Not sure yet.. But, the M6 seems a bit more a traditional body than the M7... Z1 is the bargain, But a few $100 more gets a M7 in good condition too. I guess, it is a choice of "Leica" or not for the body. I have only owned one Leica, an M5 back in the late 80s for a year or so. So I am familiar with "Leica Quality"
 
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