Fujifilm Superia X-Tra 800

Hey Juan,

thanks a lot for your recommendations - I gonna try it in a few days and will come back here to report my results.

All the best!!


Juan Valdenebro said:
For color negative incident metering: 1 2/3 stops more (Ektar100 at 25ASA with warming filter)
For color negative TTL in camera reflective metering: 1 stop more (Portra800 at 400ASA)

That's the way to get the smallest grain and the richest color.

Cheers,

Juan
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Hey silent1,

once again thank you for your prompt respond and your wonderful pics (and yes, you make me feel so jealous and hopeless as photo hobbyist😡),

please, keep 'em coming and all the best!

silent1 said:
Superia X-Tra 400 is one of my favourite films, it's an all-around performer. Here are some examples:

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Morca007 said:
Snagged a pro-pack (20 rolls) of expired (2008) X-tra 800 for $18 shipped, here's hoping it was stored properly.

edit: Auction here, 2 boxes and 11 hours left.
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Morca007, do you have received package?

I think seller mis-listed film. Title says 5 and continue with Press Pack (which I realize consists from 5 rolls, there were 5-packs). Aha, below in listing there's text
"5 Rolls of Fujifilm FUJICOLOR Superia X-TRA 800" followed by
line "In one big box 20 rolls".

Looking at sellers prices I have impression he is breaking 20 roll pack and sells 5 rolls in a lot.
Look at price of 20 rolls of little less expired 160 speed Fuji film.
 
btgc said:
Morca007, do you have received package?

I think seller mis-listed film. Title says 5 and continue with Press Pack (which I realize consists from 5 rolls, there were 5-packs). Aha, below in listing there's text
"5 Rolls of Fujifilm FUJICOLOR Superia X-TRA 800" followed by
line "In one big box 20 rolls".

Looking at sellers prices I have impression he is breaking 20 roll pack and sells 5 rolls in a lot.
Look at price of 20 rolls of little less expired 160 speed Fuji film.
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Yes, he is using the same photo for two other sales of this film, in quantities of 10 and 20:

http://shop.ebay.com/aqua2209/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p4340
 
Very confusing listing, but now that I see that all of the descriptions have the same "In one big box 20 rolls" line. I had assumed the 5 in the title referred to the number of boxes available for individual sale in that auction. :bang:

I've sent him an email regarding it.
 
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Juan Valdenebro said:
For color negative incident metering: 1 2/3 stops more (Ektar100 at 25ASA with warming filter)
For color negative TTL in camera reflective metering: 1 stop more (Portra800 at 400ASA)

That's the way to get the smallest grain and the richest color.

Cheers,

Juan
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Actually that's not the most decent way.
If you learn to expose for the darkest areas (shadows) you don't have to change the box-speed.
 
...I just got two rolls of FUJICOLOR SUPERIA X-TRA800 from my local CVS development center and got not a single shot I would consider ok😡. Everything is off big time (underexposed and grainy) and yet X-TRA400 came out beautifully (I used same camera, lens and Sekonic meter). I would really like to find out what I'm doing wrong, what'a bummer.

The moral of the story: yes, the analog manual photography is fine ART!!
 
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arthur sadowsky said:
...I just got two rolls of FUJICOLOR SUPERIA X-TRA800 from my local CVS development center and got not a single shot I would consider ok😡. Everything is off big time (underexposed and grainy) and yet X-TRA400 came out beautifully (I used same camera, lens and Sekonic meter). I would really like to find out what I'm doing wrong, what'a bummer.

The moral of the story: yes, the analog manual photography is fine ART!!
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Got some samples? Were you looking at prints from the lab?
 
dmr said:
They tell me (the ubiquitous "they") that it's the 4th color layer that's responsible for the ability to work well in mixed light. They say that it's not just marketing hype!
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Re: the 4th color layer -- I've printed this film many times on a Mini-lab machine producing various sized prints. Indeed, this film handles well under mixed lighting situations, far better than kodak gold. Skin tones tend to reproduce a bit better.

I think there's an additional layer in here to counteract for florescent lighting. Not 100% on that though.
 
arthur sadowsky said:
...I just got two rolls of FUJICOLOR SUPERIA X-TRA800 from my local CVS development center and got not a single shot I would consider ok😡. Everything is off big time (underexposed and grainy) and yet X-TRA400 came out beautifully (I used same camera, lens and Sekonic meter). I would really like to find out what I'm doing wrong, what'a bummer.

The moral of the story: yes, the analog manual photography is fine ART!!
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Same problem I had…and I tried it with a Sekonic incident meter, Nikon F4 on aperture priority and Ricoh 500G with its "spot" meter.
Some say shoot it at 640 and it'll be fine. Never tried - I buy 800 to shoot 800.
 
I have also had good luck with superia xtra 800. I use portra 800 and 800NZ in 120 format a lot, but xtra 800 is my choice for 35mm (for some reason). No need to rate the film (xtra 800) anything else but 800 if you meter correctly, but sometimes I rate it a bit slower just to make sure I don't underexpose.
 
Juan Valdenebro said:
For color negative incident metering: 1 2/3 stops more (Ektar100 at 25ASA with warming filter)
For color negative TTL in camera reflective metering: 1 stop more (Portra800 at 400ASA)

That's the way to get the smallest grain and the richest color.

Cheers,

Juan
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Given the above - I am wondering whether you would expect less grainy results from shooting ISO 400 @ 400 or ISO800 @ 400 ... ?
 
Update (sort of a public service):

A few nights ago (wee hours of the morning, in fact), I was starting work on a little tech project when I discovered the set of AA batteries in a device I needed to use were close to dead, and I had no spares. No problem, sez I: the local Rite-Aid just went to a 24/7 schedule, so I can pop on by there for apack of them. While I was there, I took a quick look at the film rack: sure enough, they had both Fuji Superia X-TRA 400 and 800, but only the 800 package trumpeted the coveted 4th layer. This must be relatively recent, and somehow I'm betting that Fuji made the judgement-call that anyone people intending to shoot in low light and/or mixed-lighting conditions will spring for the ISO 800 stuff instead of the 400. Thinking about it, this probably is a sharp call from a corporate belt-tightening POV. Besides, Fuji reps were telling me for years that I probably couldn't tell an 8x10 printed from their 800 film apart from a print struck from their 400. (I've done it, and, all else being equal, I'll just say it's rather difficult...)

I'm presuming the Fuji Pro 400 still has that 4th layer.


- Barrett
 
Superia 400:
RMS Granularity: 4
Resolving Power:
1 .......................... 50 lines/mm
1000 : 1 ........................ 125 lines/mm

Superia 800:
RMS Granularity: 5
Resolving Power:
1 .......................... 50 lines/mm
1000 : 1 ........................ 125 lines/mm

Superia 1600:
RMS Granularity: 7
Resolving Power:
1 .......................... 50 lines/mm
1000 : 1 ........................ 125 lines/mm
 
The S-800 film I just bought on ebay expired in 2009. I wonder if this is the film with the 4th layer or not?
Anyone know when this 4th layer was added to S-800 ?

Also, how do you think it will handle being pushed to 1600 ?
 
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