1930's film carton?

David Hughes said:
Hi, I'd love to see the leader. I've dug up a lot about them but without pictures and mostly in my Periflex 1 guide (sorry, not even a CRF). It says that you got the film with a black paper leader on a plastic inner spool to go in the cassette case. Plus it mentions something else called a universal cassette...

Regards, David
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David, go to our Flickr site and use the tag "F103 Vintage film" and it should take you there.
I keep messing up when trying to load pictures from Flickr to RFf. Might try tomorrow.
 
My old rolls are scattered, but I do have a couple of Czech language Kodak Paper cans, and one roll of Isopan IFF, plus various others. A roll of bulk film in the old nitrate base, and some other bulk film from the 40's. I kept a few of the steel Kodak cans as well. Had no idea anyone else was interested in this stuff.

A few packs of Dupont print paper also.

John
 
Tom, many thanks; You'd laugh but the corrugated stuff in the tin reminded me that I still haven't found any to replace the bubble wrap contaminating my old bits and pieces!

John, any pictures? As for collecting it; a lot of stuff only makes sense when everything is there. F'instance the lock on the base plate opening the cassette and so on.

Regards, David
 
JohnTF said:
My old rolls are scattered, but I do have a couple of Czech language Kodak Paper cans, and one roll of Isopan IFF, plus various others. A roll of bulk film in the old nitrate base, and some other bulk film from the 40's. I kept a few of the steel Kodak cans as well. Had no idea anyone else was interested in this stuff.

A few packs of Dupont print paper also.
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Scan the packages! :cool:
 
Found the stack of 120gr paper today, printed out with my color laserprinter the Kodak Super-XX boxes for 35mm and 120. Putting them together now

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rxmd said:
Scan the packages! :cool:
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Which are of most interest? My living room, uh, camera room, is the location of much of what someone who is more organized might call a collection. ;-)

A collector's shop in Brno gave me the paper cylinders from Kodak 35mm film, have never seen anything like it.

Opened an old camera and found an orphan roll of old Tri X, 20 ex, and another with a roll of 828.

Some of this stuff is just left for free at Camera Shows, or in boxes of stuff brought in for sale I have some Neobrom film, again from Brno, and some Russian films. I think some old Foma roll film as well,--- my suitcase used to be quite heavy on the return from Prague. Sounds as if I need to put it all in to one box and leave it by the scanner. ;-) I also brought back a box of Glass Plates made by Foma as I recall, probably 13x18cm.

If you find the largest photo store in Brno, ask for Pavel, and tell him you know me, am sure he will pass on some old films, really nice guy. ;-)

Will try to get some snaps this weekend and post them if anyone is interested.

J
 
JohnTF said:
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Will try to get some snaps this weekend and post them if anyone is interested.

J
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That'll be me!

Meanwhile, my stack of magazines is turning up next to nothing, seems Dutch magazines in the 1940's weren't all that interesting for film manufacturers to advertise in. Holland of course was a small market so the magazines manily contain articles on camera gear, film only is mentioned in articles but no advertisements so far...:(
 
CLE-RF said:
That'll be me!

Meanwhile, my stack of magazines is turning up next to nothing, seems Dutch magazines in the 1940's weren't all that interesting for film manufacturers to advertise in. Holland of course was a small market so the magazines manily contain articles on camera gear, film only is mentioned in articles but no advertisements so far...:(
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You may have to ignore the dust. ;-)
 
LeicaTom said:
Which color metal tin can is correct for this style film, does any of the old school Kodachrome shooters, remember film that old here at RFF?

Normal Kodachrome in the 1943 to 46 era I know was an ALL YELLOW CAN, was the A Film a YELLOW CAN with a RED TOP?
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Does anyone have a concrete answer about that can for the KODACHROME A film?

Tom
 
I have been reading this thread and will be making a couple of the boxes linked to above.
But, David, this thread just cost me money!:eek:
I was looking at the Etsy web site thinking that I might find some vintage film boxes or adverts I could point you folks at and I didn't find much.
I did find this: http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=39524436&ref=sr_gallery_2&&ga_search_query=popular+photography&ga_search_type=vintage&ga_page=&includes[]=tags&includes[]=title it is a listing for 4 Pop Photo magazines from before and during WW II.

I didn't buy the magazines but I did just buy a Minox B! Listed as "Vintage Minox B Spy Camera with Original Packaging in Mint Condition." Looks like it was never used. :D
I've posted one of the photos of it in the "waiting for the mail" thread.
Rob
 
David Hughes said:
Tom, many thanks; You'd laugh but the corrugated stuff in the tin reminded me that I still haven't found any to replace the bubble wrap contaminating my old bits and pieces!

John, any pictures? As for collecting it; a lot of stuff only makes sense when everything is there. F'instance the lock on the base plate opening the cassette and so on.

Regards, David
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I found an all- yellow Kodak can on one shelf. I will be happy to ship it to you with one of the 1931 films in its un-opened paper packaging. The center spool on these are actually wood with metal flanges.
Just PM me your adress and I will get it off to you. I have 1/2 roll in a 1931 Leica II and one sealed one left - and @ 1/2 asa it takes a long time to finish.
Tom
 
Yeah, I'm still trying to figure out which can is the correct one for my box of film? (SEE PAGE 2) ~ can anyone help me?

Tom
 
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Only found drawn Bessapan ads in wartime magazines

Only found drawn Bessapan ads in wartime magazines

Today I found and photographed these:
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These came from wartime issues of Dutch magazine 'Focus' and were the only two ads with film depicted in them from 1941 to 1946. Saw some Adox ads, but no film boxes shown in them.

I guess Holland and the magazine were too small an advertisement market for the big film brands...

Will continue to look for more, and post whatever I can turn up.
 

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Wasn't photography outlawed at some point during the German occupation, like radios? That will go a long way at explaining why there are so few adds for film during that period.
 
rbiemer said:
I have been reading this thread and will be making a couple of the boxes linked to above.
But, David, this thread just cost me money!:eek:
I was looking at the Etsy web site thinking that I might find some vintage film boxes or adverts I could point you folks at and I didn't find much.
I did find this: http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=39524436&ref=sr_gallery_2&&ga_search_query=popular+photography&ga_search_type=vintage&ga_page=&includes[]=tags&includes[]=title it is a listing for 4 Pop Photo magazines from before and during WW II.

I didn't buy the magazines but I did just buy a Minox B! Listed as "Vintage Minox B Spy Camera with Original Packaging in Mint Condition." Looks like it was never used. :D
I've posted one of the photos of it in the "waiting for the mail" thread.
Rob
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You mean you didn't get the magazines. ;-)
 
Mr_Flibble said:
Wasn't photography outlawed at some point during the German occupation, like radios? That will go a long way at explaining why there are so few adds for film during that period.
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I'm pretty sure that with like the overseas wireless, photography was forbidden to the local nationals in all the Nazi Occupied countries.

I have pretty much figured out that the Dutch 1940/41 Leica IIIC "NL" cameras were ALL issued to the German Forces, it was all but impossible to get a Leica on the open market, during the occupation, and anything IMPORTED into these countires was snapped up by the Germans.

I've figured ALL civilian photography in occupied Europe was a very dangerous undertaking, I don't think anyone was shooting anything for a hobby, it was all for ading the underground movements at the time.

Tom
 
Did some reading up on this,

Possession of a radio was illegal from 1943 onward for all Dutch civilians (For the Jews it was from the 15th of April 1941).
There was censorship on photography from 1941 onwards, but there was no outright law against it until november 1944. When photographing, filming or drawing anything outside of a closed room was forbidden.

So, cameras would be available to the public at least until that time, and film too I suppose, though heavily rationed like everything else.
Some photographers would shoot paper negatives instead because of the scarcity of film.
 
Here's an advert from 1937

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I like the little drawing, can't think what make it is...

Regards, David

PS They didn't ban radios in England but they did ban kite flying and I've a cutting somewhere from 1941 or '42 about what happened to photographers. It's somewhere in the "Does anything ever change?" files.
 
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