Question about the R3M and the Frame Lines

[Pirate]

I know it has 40/50/75/90 lines in it, but what happens if you put in a 12mm or 15mm super wide lens?

Are the frame lines selectable or automatic?

I like this camera and am really thinking of getting one. just curious about the super wide lenses as I'd like to use them on this body as well.

Thanks,
Chris

 

[ruby.monkey]

Frame lines are selected manually. Doesn't matter what lens one has mounted.

 

[xxloverxx]

I believe the framelines on the Bessas (Bessi?) are manually selected. So if you put a 12mm on there, the framelines shown would be what you selected — the lens mounted does nothing to change the framelines.

 

[Pirate]

Thank you both very much, that is what I hoped for.

Chris

 

[Leigh Youdale]

Sorry to disappoint you, but the 12mm and 15mm lenses require an accessory viewfinder that fits in the hot shoe. 40mm is the widest frame the R3x shows and it takes up all of the viewfinder in the camera. Refer to Cameraquest's comprehensive website for details and prices. I have the 15mm lens.

 

[Pirate]

No disappointment, I'm aware the 12 and 15 use a separate viewfinder, I just didn't know if the frame lines were automatic or manual as I had not noticed a switching lever. If they were automatically switched when you put on a lens, then I needed to know how a different lens would affect the camera if it did not contain lines for that lens.

 

[Tompas]

(...) the 12mm and 15mm lenses require an accessory viewfinder that fits in the hot shoe. (...)

Since you don't really have to focus such extreme wide-angles, the use of an external finder works well. I use the 15mm on my R3a -- and it's a lot of fun. 🙂

 

[rxmd]

If they were automatically switched when you put on a lens, then I needed to know how a different lens would affect the camera if it did not contain lines for that lens.

No problem, happens with Leicas all the time. All you get is the wrong framelines for your lens.

 

[Leigh Youdale]

No disappointment, I'm aware the 12 and 15 use a separate viewfinder, I just didn't know if the frame lines were automatic or manual as I had not noticed a switching lever. If they were automatically switched when you put on a lens, then I needed to know how a different lens would affect the camera if it did not contain lines for that lens.

Apologies. I misunderstood your original question. I actually like the manual switching as you can check the FOV of a lens without having to fit it first.

 

[gliderbee]

Apologies. I misunderstood your original question. I actually like the manual switching as you can check the FOV of a lens without having to fit it first.

You can do that also with the Leica, Zeiss Ikon and Hexar (the ones I know have automatic switching) with the lever at the left of the lens, but me too, I prefer the manual switching, e.g. to be able to choose the frame you want to use if the correct one is not available (e.g. you have 75 and 90, but are using a 80mm or 85mm lens), or when using LTM-lines , you don't have the correct adapter to autoselect the correct frame.

Stefan.