flip
良かったね!
Just met with a seller to pick this up and completed my Konica KM kit.* 
I'm struck by the size of this lens. Not the behemoth I anticipated. For reference, figure the lens is kind of a mushroom shape. The 'neck' is the same as the Konica 28/2.8 (diameter and length). With hoods on both, the lengths of the dual and the CV 35/1.2 are about the same. Of course, the dual is significantly lighter.
The shoe-mount finder is sizeable but nice. The 35mm framelines are virtually free of obstruction. The lens (with or without hood) reaches up to the bottom of the 35mm framelines. So, you can get some notion of the impingement on the 21 framelines.
Mounted, with hood, the RF patch for an M3 or Hexar rests right on top of the cutout portion of the hood. I'd say you lose 20-25% visibility in the primary finder of either camera with the hood on and maybe 15% without the hood.
I repurposed my Konica 62mm filter for this and it appears to fit under the hood nicely, leading me to wonder why Konica didn't include a filter with this lens. It doesn't appear that it would cause any vignetting that the hood itself doesn't already induce (and I'm assuming the hood won't cause any).
My initial impression is that this is not a fast lens to operate, but I guess that goes with the territory. It's the first lens I will operate of this kind , so I expect a little bit of a learning curve.
Looking forward to trying it out almost as much as sourcing a scanner to share pics.
Cheers,
Phil
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Sunny = Hexar RF + 21&35Dual /3.4 + 90/2.8
Mixed conditions = Leica M3 + 28/2.8 + 50/1.2 + 90/2.8
[I couldn't justify the Hexanon M 35/2 or M 50/2]
I'm struck by the size of this lens. Not the behemoth I anticipated. For reference, figure the lens is kind of a mushroom shape. The 'neck' is the same as the Konica 28/2.8 (diameter and length). With hoods on both, the lengths of the dual and the CV 35/1.2 are about the same. Of course, the dual is significantly lighter.
The shoe-mount finder is sizeable but nice. The 35mm framelines are virtually free of obstruction. The lens (with or without hood) reaches up to the bottom of the 35mm framelines. So, you can get some notion of the impingement on the 21 framelines.
Mounted, with hood, the RF patch for an M3 or Hexar rests right on top of the cutout portion of the hood. I'd say you lose 20-25% visibility in the primary finder of either camera with the hood on and maybe 15% without the hood.
I repurposed my Konica 62mm filter for this and it appears to fit under the hood nicely, leading me to wonder why Konica didn't include a filter with this lens. It doesn't appear that it would cause any vignetting that the hood itself doesn't already induce (and I'm assuming the hood won't cause any).
My initial impression is that this is not a fast lens to operate, but I guess that goes with the territory. It's the first lens I will operate of this kind , so I expect a little bit of a learning curve.
Looking forward to trying it out almost as much as sourcing a scanner to share pics.
Cheers,
Phil
*
Sunny = Hexar RF + 21&35Dual /3.4 + 90/2.8
Mixed conditions = Leica M3 + 28/2.8 + 50/1.2 + 90/2.8
[I couldn't justify the Hexanon M 35/2 or M 50/2]
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Krosya
Konicaze
Congrats and I too would love to see some pics from it!
kbg32
neo-romanticist
I have this lens and it is wonderful. A lot cheaper and as good as a Tri-Elmar. I get beautiful files from it with my M8. I have a UV/IR filter on mine with the hood and it does not vignette. I find the lens to be easy to operate and quite fast in this regard.
Here are some images with it - http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=99734516@N00&q=Konica+Dual&m=text
Here are some images with it - http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=99734516@N00&q=Konica+Dual&m=text
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f16sunshine
Moderator
flip
良かったね!
Nice pics. I can see from Keith's shots the real benefits of this as a street lens. Andy's make me want to *not* sell my RD-1 -- the crop factor is such a nice match for these focal lengths!
I imagine that the 21mm length will take some getting into as I tend to be a 50mm shooter. These shots do help me to consider new approaches to broadening my photography. Thanks!
I imagine that the 21mm length will take some getting into as I tend to be a 50mm shooter. These shots do help me to consider new approaches to broadening my photography. Thanks!
kbg32
neo-romanticist
Have fun and enjoy the lens Phil!
Krosya
Konicaze
Nice pics. I can see from Keith's shots the real benefits of this as a street lens. Andy's make me want to *not* sell my RD-1 -- the crop factor is such a nice match for these focal lengths!
I imagine that the 21mm length will take some getting into as I tend to be a 50mm shooter. These shots do help me to consider new approaches to broadening my photography. Thanks!
Well, so how's that new lens doing? Do you have any photos from it to share? I'm very interested to see some photos and more comments about it.
david.elliott
Well-known
matsuiya store has one on ebay for pretty dang cheap - 1500 or so dollars
mathomas
Well-known
I'm envious. Happy shooting!
flip
良かったね!
I only took it out once so far and have yet to finish the roll, much less find a scanner. I promise when I do, I will return. Unfortunately, a good scanner makes the lenses look cheap. That what I get for gain against the tide of 'progress.'
FWIW, the market for these lenses is not big. When two went up for sale recently, the second went for 30% less than the first. Then again, I had to wait ~8 months after the last one for these two to appear.
FWIW, the market for these lenses is not big. When two went up for sale recently, the second went for 30% less than the first. Then again, I had to wait ~8 months after the last one for these two to appear.
flip
良かったね!
http://page7.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/g92043051
I got lucky recently, so the market may be in a price lull. Obviously, no connection to seller.
I got lucky recently, so the market may be in a price lull. Obviously, no connection to seller.
flip
良かったね!
Was able to snap off a few with this at the local curry shop. Unfortunately, my film dev techniques and scanning techniques are works in progress (rather intrigued by the false colors under color scanning). I was pleased to note that the lens distorted so little in close quarters. Quite different from the CV15. And at ISO 1000~ish (HP5+), the slowness of the lens wasn't a deal breaker for this situation.
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Chyn
Established
^^^
Very nice. This is exactly the kind of images that I would like to make if I owned this lens. Load up with Neopan 1600 and shoot wide open and I'm set!
How accurate is the external finder for composition?
Very nice. This is exactly the kind of images that I would like to make if I owned this lens. Load up with Neopan 1600 and shoot wide open and I'm set!
How accurate is the external finder for composition?
flip
良かったね!
I do not yet have enough experience to speak on the finder. When I do, I'll add my input.
Krosya
Konicaze
Was able to snap off a few with this at the local curry shop. Unfortunately, my film dev techniques and scanning techniques are works in progress (rather intrigued by the false colors under color scanning). I was pleased to note that the lens distorted so little in close quarters. Quite different from the CV15. And at ISO 1000~ish (HP5+), the slowness of the lens wasn't a deal breaker for this situation.
Nice photo, hope you will post more. I dont think you can really fairly compare 21mm with 15mm view/FL though.
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flip
良かったね!
Probably not. My point is simply that for the close quarters of a typical Japanese shop, a 28 is sometimes too narrow and the 15 is rather distorted. With this lens, I found that I was able to snap a few shots at 21 and 35 that covered my indoor needs nicely (without really using the finder). That said, when I later switched to the 35\1.2 I was able to get some even nicer results (better exposed and at faster speeds).
I think that with some 1600 film and moderate indoor lighting, this is a one lens kit for these occasions.
I think that with some 1600 film and moderate indoor lighting, this is a one lens kit for these occasions.
flip
良かったね!
f16sunshine
Moderator
That is a striking image Phil. Very imposing from his vantage.
flip
良かったね!
That is a striking image Phil. Very imposing from his vantage.
Thanks. I have mostly used this lens at 21 as 35 is a bit more familiar territory for which I typically gravitate to other lenses. In the case of the above shot and this one.... I used 800npz (expired and overexposed). This is at 35, as I recall.
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f16sunshine
Moderator
Has anyone used this lens on an M9? Could you post some samples or links? Mine has been idle and I'm thinking of trading it but, may hang in there for a future M9 purchase.
thanks in advance.
thanks in advance.
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