Like Jon, after some searching I was eventually fortunate enough to get 2 original SPs w/good VFs (1 from a RFF member) & they're only slightly worse than the SP 2005, but still noticeably so.
That's been my experience with the SP 2005 as well.
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marcr1230
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Explain this to me, in all seriousness, what's the point of having 3-4 of the same camera?
Mister E
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And you were hassling me about my 4 S2s!I have four - two vintage and two reissue![]()
Mister E
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For me at most I want one back up body. My 4 S2s are totally temporary.Explain this to me, in all seriousness, what's the point of having 3-4 of the same camera?
I plan to have one Vintage SP, 2005 SP, Black Reissue S3 and two S2s at most. That's still two many, but not insane. Once I have that I won't be buying another Nikon RF ever.
I think hording cameras is as bad as anything else. I managed to go from about 10 m-lenses to 3 in a week. I got rid of a body too and still need to get rid of another as soon as I can make a decision on which one. Probably an M2.
Three or four of the same camera- they are all slightly different. They are loaded with film.
I have Eleven F2's and Nine F's, only Four F3's. I sold some of the F2's and F's off. They add up after 35 years of collecting.
The hard part was getting fitted cases for all, including the F2S with DS-1 and F2 with Action Finder. You can go a long time without seeing a CH-11 and CF-2.
I have Eleven F2's and Nine F's, only Four F3's. I sold some of the F2's and F's off. They add up after 35 years of collecting.
The hard part was getting fitted cases for all, including the F2S with DS-1 and F2 with Action Finder. You can go a long time without seeing a CH-11 and CF-2.
Tom A
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Explain this to me, in all seriousness, what's the point of having 3-4 of the same camera?
Is this a trick question? Are you an agent for various spouses? If we can explain it to their satisfaction - we will not reveal the secret (unless bribed with more camera!).
Or rolls and rolls of film![]()
Or lenses. Nice lenses!!!
Mister E
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I'd guess that I have no less than 400 rolls of 35mm and probably 120 rolls of 220 Fujichome (Provia 100F & MS100/1000 with a few rolls of other stuff). That's after selling 40 rolls to one friend the other day and 20 rolls to Jon when I was in Tokyo.Or rolls and rolls of film![]()
P. Lynn Miller
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I like my S2s better than my SP, but the SP is more usable for lenses other than 50mm. I just picked up a vintage SP, but it's not here yet. It was supposed to have a great finder; hopefully it does. The S2 would be nicer with parallax correction.
Nate,
This is a very interesting observation as I intended to use my SP with only 35 or 50 lens, so figured that the SP would be the better choice for a good finder. I seldom use any my RF gear any more, preferring to use my Nikon F or Nikkormat FTn, only missing a rangefinder when street shooting fast and furious, but even then I have a F slung over my other shoulder. Grappling with focusing rings and aperture rings that rotate in opposing directions is causing me to not even bother with my RF's. But switching to a Nikon RF cures all that angst. I will shooting a 50mm most of the time, although I definitely want to have a 35/1.8 to use when I want.
So maybe I need to take a hard look at the S2 as well...
Mister E
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Only if the secret was why is my wife angry she has no room in the fridge!So, was the secret revealed?![]()
Mister E
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Yeah, I'd get an S2 and an external finder for the 35 and love life. Forget an SP for just two lenses.Nate,
This is a very interesting observation as I intended to use my SP with only 35 or 50 lens, so figured that the SP would be the better choice for a good finder. I seldom use any my RF gear any more, preferring to use my Nikon F or Nikkormat FTn, only missing a rangefinder when street shooting fast and furious, but even then I have a F slung over my other shoulder. Grappling with focusing rings and aperture rings that rotate in opposing directions is causing me to not even bother with my RF's. But switching to a Nikon RF cures all that angst. I will shooting a 50mm most of the time, although I definitely want to have a 35/1.8 to use when I want.
So maybe I need to take a hard look at the S2 as well...
An S2 with a 28/35 mini finder is a sweet setup...
The SP is my favourite, but a nice S2 is a very good camera and all that you really need if just shooting with a 35 and 50. Mister E might even have one or two for sale soon 
Mister E
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Two for sale soon!
Vickko
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Oh god, I've gone through that phase. I know how you feel.
rbsinto
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I finally had an opportunity to hold a new S3, and compare its finder with those of my original SP and two vintage S3s.
I concluded that one of my S3's has at least as good a viewfinder as the new one, and the other 2 cameras while not quite as good are certainly useable.
Based on that I would assume that the same sort of conditions would apply to comparing the viewfinders of vintage versus new SPs; some are as good and others are not.
So, if one is fortunate enough to find a vintage shooter with a good viewfinder, it will likely cost less than a new body (especially if the new one is black), and so in my opinion be a better value.
I paid $2,565.00 for my two S3s and SP (all trouble-free since I've had them), which would have barely covered the cost of one re-issued S3, so I think I came out ahead buying as I did.
I concluded that one of my S3's has at least as good a viewfinder as the new one, and the other 2 cameras while not quite as good are certainly useable.
Based on that I would assume that the same sort of conditions would apply to comparing the viewfinders of vintage versus new SPs; some are as good and others are not.
So, if one is fortunate enough to find a vintage shooter with a good viewfinder, it will likely cost less than a new body (especially if the new one is black), and so in my opinion be a better value.
I paid $2,565.00 for my two S3s and SP (all trouble-free since I've had them), which would have barely covered the cost of one re-issued S3, so I think I came out ahead buying as I did.
So, if one is fortunate enough to find a vintage shooter with a good viewfinder, it will likely cost less than a new body (especially if the new one is black), and so in my opinion be a better value.
I paid $2,565.00 for my two S3s and SP (all trouble-free since I've had them), which would have barely covered the cost of one re-issued S3, so I think I came out ahead buying as I did.
Prices have come down so much on the S3 reissue recently that these days you could almost buy three S3 reissue bodies for that amount.
NIKON KIU
Did you say Nippon Kogaku
Explain this to me, in all seriousness, what's the point of having 3-4 of the same camera?
Photographers need to have back-up cameras.
Collectors like to collect cameras.
Kiu
rbsinto
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Prices have come down so much on the S3 reissue recently that these days you could almost buy three S3 reissue bodies for that amount.
Jon,
The $2,565.00 that I referred to was for all three cameras, so I'm curious as to where new S3s are available for roughly $850.00 each. I'm no expert, but I've never seen them offered anywhere even close to that price. Perhaps things are different in Japan.
Of course the point is moot. I've got as many bodies as I need and other than some filters, a lens and body cap or two, and perhaps the CV 25, my needs are met.
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