framelines for 28,35,50...why?

. . . And while we are asking questions . . .

. . . And while we are asking questions . . .

. . . Why the 1:1 finder? With the 1.5:1 crop factor, I would want to use the finder with wider lenses, such as the 24mm and 21mm. Eyeglass wearers tell us they can't even see the 28mm framelines with the 1:1 finder. I'd have bought an R-D1 a long time ago, if it had a lower magnification and frames for the wider lenses. You need to be able to use a 24mm lens just to get the equivalent of the tried-and-true 35mm field of view. The R-D1 should have a .7 finder and 21 and 24mm framelines. Well, Ok, the R-D2 should have that option for those who require it. The R-D1 is for those who like the normal and longer lenses.
 
The 35 and 50mm framelines probably targeted the two most popular focal lengths for RF shooters; therefore, the kind of shooters would be buying an R-D1s, in general would likely already have a 35 or a 50 or both.

The 28mm is a mystery, although they probably thought its was the 3rd most popular FL for RF shooters... ???

I would have thought 21 (or 24)-35-50 made more sense, but what do I know?? 😱
 
I would think Epson re-used the R3* finder. 28/35/50 matches 40/50/75 nicely when accounting for the crop factor and a little slack wrt distance the framelines are calibrated for.

Roland.
 
ferider said:
I would think Epson re-used the R3* finder. 28/35/50 matches 40/50/75 nicely when accounting for the crop factor and a little slack wrt distance the framelines are calibrated for...
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+1 and a 1:1 VF with 35mm frame lines would be significantly larger i guess.
 
Just to add, two of the most popular lenses in Leica M format are 35 and 50mm.
If you hope to attract M film camera owners to go digital, it makes sense to at least cater for two of their most used lenses.
 
chrisso said:
...If you hope to attract M film camera owners to go digital, it makes sense to at least cater for two of their most used lenses.
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This is done already. 28, 35 & 50mm lenses work perfectly on the R-D1. Even 40mm ones work fine with the 35mm frame lines. Only problem of 1:1 cameras is wides where one need an add-on viewfinder. Nothing new since the M3 when Leica users needed goggles with their 35mm lenses.
 
i miss having 90mm framelines, even though it'd only be accurate up to f4...

and yeah, as a glasses wearer most of the time i can't see the 28mm framelines, and even the 35mm ones i'm not a very big fan of. i wish it had a bottom line, it'd make two eyes opened framing better.

and if it had a .72 mag it's be just so sweet, it's better to then use magnifiers than to use de-magnifiers.
 
LCT said:
This is done already. 28, 35 & 50mm lenses work perfectly on the R-D1. Even 40mm ones work fine with the 35mm frame lines.
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Whether it is already done depends on interpretation. Yes, owners of 28, 35, 40, and 50mm lenses can use them on the R-D1. But if it is not the numerical focal lengths that are at issue, but their angles of view that have established them with RF shooters, then the digital RF should replicate those fields of view by allowing the use wider lenses with its built-in finder. In that sense, it is not already done.

Cosina recognized the need for a wide-angle camera when they brought out the R4. Funny they didn't put that finder on the R-D1, with appropriately resized framelines.
 
Rob-F said:
...In that sense, it is not already done...
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As i said above, only problem of 1:1 cameras is wides where one need an add-on viewfinder. Nothing new since the M3 when Leica users needed goggles with their 35mm lenses. Fo those who prefer WA rangefinders there were the M2 and other .72x bodies and lately .58x M bodies, now the .68x M8, M8.2 and M9. Not the same beasts at all.
 
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