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has there been a battle between the 2 cv beasts done on rff yet?
memory is going...
memory is going...
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
That would be an interesting comparison. For me the 35mm would kick the 50's butt based on IQ!
But who knows?
But who knows?
P. Lynn Miller
Well-known
Not that I know of... but I have both. The 35/1.2 is only reason that I do not switch to Nikon RF and keep a Leica... but I have warmed to the 50/1.1 of late as well. Now if only we could get the Cosina lens designers to whip up a 75/1.4 and 90/2.
Pablito
coco frío
Yes, they are both fast, but comparing a 35 to a 50 seems to me like comparing Japanese food and Italian food. Which is better, more interesting, etc...? Depends on your taste...
helen.HH
To Light & Love ...
That would be an interesting comparison. For me the 35mm would kick the 50's butt based on IQ!
But who knows?
i Beg to Differ .....!!!!
tried the 35 1.2 but it held no Magic for me though admittedly I have seen TONS of STELLAR work from lots of RFF members
I am waiting for Stephen to come back from Maui (arghhhh...holidays )
so I can have my 1.1 Nokton...I can feel it in my Bones..
it will be Magic !!
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Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
i Beg to Differ .....!!!!
tried the 35 1.2 but it held no Magic for me though admittedly I have seen TONS of STELLAR work from lots of RFF members
I am waiting for Stephen to come back from Maui (arghhhh...holidays )
so I can have my 1.1 Nokton...I can feel it in my Bones..
it will be Magic !!
I don't feel that there's magic in either of these lenses Helen. For me the magic lies in a lens like my 50mm f1.2 Canon.
helen.HH
To Light & Love ...
I don't feel that there's magic in either of these lenses Helen. For me the magic lies in a lens like my 50mm f1.2 Canon.
Does Sound good that 1.2 canon....
but I do think the Nokton 1.1 has a Chance
its taken me awhile to warm up to her
but I feel I an seeing something that now Catches my EYE
and i am eager to EXPLORE....
Edit addition: P Lynn Miller has taken some EXCEPTIONAL noir -esque, low light photos w/ the 1.1
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ferider
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The magic is in you, Helen.
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Yes, they are both fast, but comparing a 35 to a 50 seems to me like comparing Japanese food and Italian food. Which is better, more interesting, etc...? Depends on your taste...
i was thinking more in terms of centre sharpness, edge sharpness...bokeh etc.
also the 'look' that each produces, if they share a similar character, heritage...family line.
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The magic is in you, Helen.
how comeyou never whisper sweet nothings like that to me rollie...:angel:
helen.HH
To Light & Love ...
The magic is in you, Helen.
ohhhhhh!!!!!
yes I understand that PURRfectly and AGREED
but sometimes 'Glass' does have that Seductive Power in helping You create 'Atmosphere'
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
Does Sound good that 1.2 canon....
but I do think the Nokton 1.1 has a Chance
its taken me awhile to warm up to her
but I feel I an seeing something that now Catches my EYE
and i am eager to EXPLORE....
Edit addition: P Lynn Miller has taken some EXCEPTIONAL noir -esque, low light photos w/ the 1.1
That's Lynn's expertise at play ... he could have produced as good with several other lenses I can think of.
I don't think noir-esque photography stresses any lens's credentials ... it just needs speed along with expert processing for the final result.
Freakscene
Obscure member
They render really differently. I like the 35/1.2 much better. I have a bunch of shots from both somewhere, but am working like mad until the end of this month when I go away for a couple of months.
Marty
Marty
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
how comeyou never whisper sweet nothings like that to me rollie...:angel:
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oh the pain...:bang:
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They render really differently. I like the 35/1.2 much better. I have a bunch of shots from both somewhere, but am working like mad until the end of this month when I go away for a couple of months.
Marty
with very limited experience so far...i am liking the 50 better...
what does that say about me?
P. Lynn Miller
Well-known
Hmmm... I do not know... I am in the middle of publishing a new post where I am going to recant on my hard-line position on the Nokton 50/1.1. It is not magical... but very, very capable.
Joe, I do not do side by side tests of any my lenses. But I have been shooting the 50/1.1 alot of late. Different rendering than the 35/1.2... but not far off. The 50/1.1 is a very high resolution lens in practice with plenty contrast even wide-open... the 35/1.2 is softer wide open and lower contrast across all apertures. The out-of-focus and transitions are well controlled and smooth in the 50/1.1 where as the 35/1.2 can show abit temperamentalness at times.
And I agree with Keith... choice of film, developer, and processing makes a huge difference how the lens are perceived.
Joe, I do not do side by side tests of any my lenses. But I have been shooting the 50/1.1 alot of late. Different rendering than the 35/1.2... but not far off. The 50/1.1 is a very high resolution lens in practice with plenty contrast even wide-open... the 35/1.2 is softer wide open and lower contrast across all apertures. The out-of-focus and transitions are well controlled and smooth in the 50/1.1 where as the 35/1.2 can show abit temperamentalness at times.
And I agree with Keith... choice of film, developer, and processing makes a huge difference how the lens are perceived.
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i need to find more shooting time...
i shoot on the rd1 and that likely changes the looks a bit also.
if i can, i will shoot both at the same event soon.
i shoot on the rd1 and that likely changes the looks a bit also.
if i can, i will shoot both at the same event soon.
khaki8
Newbie
Helen....Nokton 50mm
Helen....Nokton 50mm
H...you can pick up the Nokton at Photo Village at 26th and Broadway..1133 I think. Problem with the tax though...it is in stock..looked at one last week.
Helen....Nokton 50mm
H...you can pick up the Nokton at Photo Village at 26th and Broadway..1133 I think. Problem with the tax though...it is in stock..looked at one last week.
Juan Valdenebro
Truth is beauty
I'd like to see a Cosina Voigtlander 28/1.4, that would make an excellent pair along with a CV 75/1.4.
Those two would sell like crazy... And attract old and new RF users... I wonder about their plans at CV... They've been a bit quiet for some time... For sure they're preparing great new things...
Cheers,
Juan
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