menos
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While walking the Hong Kong nights last weeks:
"Z" Leica M7 | 35 Lux ASPH | TriX @ 3200

"Z" Leica M7 | 35 Lux ASPH | TriX @ 3200
SimonSawSunlight
Simon Fabel
amazingly low grain for tri-x @ 3200! do you mind sharing the dev' data?
agricola
Well-known
Dirk - I've commented before on your night time work. I think the last one was a Mercedes with the RD1. Another great example.
Simon SS is of course a dab hand himself at the darkness routine, and I would like to second his request. Can you also reveal your scanner and any technique to get these results?
all the best - keep 'em coming.
Simon SS is of course a dab hand himself at the darkness routine, and I would like to second his request. Can you also reveal your scanner and any technique to get these results?
all the best - keep 'em coming.
Jaime M
Established
amazingly low grain for tri-x @ 3200! do you mind sharing the dev' data?
+1!
Would you mind please?
Mister E
Well-known
Looks great.
yoyo22
Well-known
My guess would be Rodinal 1:100 stand development for 2 hours?
menos
Veteran
amazingly low grain for tri-x @ 3200! do you mind sharing the dev' data?
Thanks Simon!
Actually this is, what TriX @ 3200 always looks like (I guess, most people stop pushing @ 1600, so they just don't know, how nice TX400 looks @ 3200
I shoot all my TriX to 99% @ ISO3200 and develop in the lab with D-76 or at home with Tmax developer at standard times from the DevChart.
I don't stop the film, just wash after developing.
I am known as a crumpy, hard knot, complaining endlessly about the high ISO performance of Leica's digitals, until all "yeah but look, what I do @ 2500 with my brand spanking new M9 - people" creep out of every hole, to show their noise reduction and exposure abilities.
It is really simple: I love my M8.2 up to ISO1250 and when the light gets dim, I love my M7 with pushed TriX much, much, much, …, much more
Film is still king in low light with Leica M cameras. (that's a big D O T)
Dirk - I've commented before on your night time work. I think the last one was a Mercedes with the RD1. Another great example.
Simon SS is of course a dab hand himself at the darkness routine, and I would like to second his request. Can you also reveal your scanner and any technique to get these results?
all the best - keep 'em coming.
Thanks agricola ;-)
Yes, you are right, I remember that Mercedes - at that time, I used the R-D1 and pushed the files like crazy - loved that look ;-)

I think, it was that one - I was in the purest love with the Leica 50 Lux ASPH at that time ;-)

While digging out car shots in Hong Kong - here is one, I like a bit (an old shot with cheap Superia in BW).
+1!
Would you mind please?
Thanks Jaime ;-)
See above - nothing special, just D-76 or Tmax 1:1 according to DevChart.
Looks great.
Thanks Mister E ;-)
My guess would be Rodinal 1:100 stand development for 2 hours?
No, but I have seen wonderful results from skilled people, pushing ISO3200 from TX400 in Rodinal.
the ones, I remember, was from a German on the Nikon Café.
helen.HH
To Light & Love ...
Stellar !!
David Murphy
Veteran
Hong Kong streets are visually dazzling at night - I love the place
michaelshane
Well-known
Hong Kong is my favorite city in the world....
kdemas
Enjoy Life.
I'm amazed that there were done with traditional development, not stand. Very very nice.
Colin Corneau
Colin Corneau
Hard to tell from a small file online, but the grain is pretty interesting. Shadows are what I'd expect but not the grain.
MrDan
Member
that car belong to chester ng... does a lot of great automotive photography
khc1013
Anthony
Stunning!
I have tried trix@3200 with Tmax. Nothing close to what you got. Probably something messed up on my part. Going to try it again.
I have tried trix@3200 with Tmax. Nothing close to what you got. Probably something messed up on my part. Going to try it again.
menos
Veteran
Stellar !!
Thanks Helen ;-)
Hong Kong streets are visually dazzling at night - I love the place
Me too - would not think twice, if a nice opportunity forces itself on me ;-)
Shanghai is not bad either though.
Hong Kong is my favorite city in the world....
+1 ;-)
I'm amazed that there were done with traditional development, not stand. Very very nice.
Yes, I am always happy with the lab (it is Yiqian Imaging, now known as ELITE in Shanghai btw ;-))
Hard to tell from a small file online, but the grain is pretty interesting. Shadows are what I'd expect but not the grain.
That one would be correct - the small JPG hides quite a bit, but also softens the shot - I might show up a crop for pixel peepers later.
I use TriX a bit different now than I did long time - I expose it more extreme to the right, than digital files, pulling it back later (shooting 1/3 − 2/3 over + developing for ~ISO4000).
This negative has plenty of shadow detail, but highlights still are not clipped at all - this file looks a bit dull though, as I didn't go for best quality, scanning it (it is an almost straight JPG, inverted from a D3 + 60mm Micro Nikkor, loaded with JPG artifacts and mushyness - a Imacon scan or even a careful reshoot and development from a NEF raw file should be far superior).
that car belong to chester ng... does a lot of great automotive photography
Ahh - I didn't know that ;-)
He does some wonderful work with cars!
menos
Veteran
Stunning!
I have tried trix@3200 with Tmax. Nothing close to what you got. Probably something messed up on my part. Going to try it again.
Do it ;-) TriX is angel dust for me - love that stuff.
I think, you can't do anything, to make it look bad ;-)
It was the first film, I shot, and it stuck.
I still have the other BW films in the fridge, I bought two years ago for tryouts - never tried them - TX400 just sticks.
The one roll of Neopan, I tried with the Noct-Nikkor, I just had a first peek, looks amazingly clean though (less grain, less deep shadows, less contrasty highlights, …) - seems like a nice film, to shoot too (but needs more PP for my taste).
ebino
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While walking the Hong Kong nights last weeks:
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"Z" Leica M7 | 35 Lux ASPH | TriX @ 3200
Menos this is a great picture but i will give you an honest feedback.
the level of detail and sharpness on the car does not match the lack of detail and sharpness of the background, this creates a feel that the car does not look as it belongs to the background... This could be your intention, and maybe you sharpened the car but not the background. But I thought I give you an honest feedback, the same i'd expect for my own pictures.
menos
Veteran
Menos this is a great picture but i will give you an honest feedback.
the level of detail and sharpness on the car does not match the lack of detail and sharpness of the background, this creates a feel that the car does not look as it belongs to the background... This could be your intention, and maybe you sharpened the car but not the background. But I thought I give you an honest feedback, the same i'd expect for my own pictures.
Thanks - I don't mind honest feedback at all - I encourage it ;-)
The look comes entirely through one fact: the shot has been made with the 35mm f1.4 lens wide open.
Focus sits on the Nissan sign. The background shows less detail, as it vanishes beyond the small depth of field of the wide open lens (this is a full frame scan of a medium wide angle lens, so you can imagine, that I kneeled rather close in front of the car).
No "photoshoppping" or selective sharpening has been made - the shot is "as is" from film (actually, it is rather dull, as I missed the right exposure and curves during "scanning" and quite a bit of quality got lost with this quick and dirty JPG scan - I will squeeze the negative much more for the print).
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ebino
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Thanks - I don't mind honest feedback at all - I encourage it ;-)
The look comes entirely through one fact: the shot has been made with the 35mm f1.4 lens wide open.
Focus sits on the Nissan sign. The background shows less detail, as it vanishes beyond the small depth of field of the wide open lens (this is a full frame scan of a medium wide angle lens, so you can imagine, that I kneeled rather close in front of the car).
No "photoshoppping" or selective sharpening has been made - the shot is "as is" from film (actually, it is rather dull, as I missed the right exposure and curves during "scanning" and quite a bit of quality got lost with this quick and dirty JPG scan - I will squeeze the negative much more for the print).
I considered the larger f stop but it seems quite a bit of the car and the street is in focus, the dof seems to be at least a meter or more.
i think the culprit is the color of the car and apart from lowering the contrast and burning it a bit in photoshop, there is not much that can done about it.
but anyway, i'm glad you did not take my feedback in the wrong way and in the end it should look right according to you.
menos
Veteran
No worries Ebino ;-)
Actually, I like exactly, how it came out, as it "pops". The good thing is, that it pops without tinkering in software, but because of the light and the lens used.
I dare, to "fix" that in photoshop.
Actually, I like exactly, how it came out, as it "pops". The good thing is, that it pops without tinkering in software, but because of the light and the lens used.
I dare, to "fix" that in photoshop.
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