kshapero
South Florida Man
I admit I have owned and tried a lot of cameras (no regrets) but never could understand using a meterless camera. It was like why? Then I picked up a Yashica YF (which I will soon be selling). No meter. I ran 4 or 5 rolls through it and could not believe how much I was thinking through exposure; apertures, shutter speed and using ISO speed as a exposure shift regime. What an eye opener. All these years I was trusting the camera meter to make the decisions (yes even an M6 makes decisions for you). I found myself really thinking exposure and it was awesome. So....I got an M3 and of course it is more of the same only better (hence the forthcoming sale of the YF). So here I am, a photog buff of 35 years (started out with a Nikkormat FTN (still have it)) and I am learning the part of photography I pretty much skipped because I grew up on internal camera meters. Life is good and oh so unpredictable.
Juan Valdenebro
Truth is beauty
Yeah it's cool!
But it's tricky!
Sometimes (especially in low light) I check my decisions with an incident meter and I'm really off! And I don't mean just half or one stop!
Cheers,
Juan
But it's tricky!
Sometimes (especially in low light) I check my decisions with an incident meter and I'm really off! And I don't mean just half or one stop!
Cheers,
Juan
kshapero
South Florida Man
Yes you are right. I have been using a Light meter app on my iPhone to assist. But even that requires looking at your reading, i.e. aperture and shutter speed.Yeah it's cool!
But it's tricky!
Sometimes (especially in low light) I check my decisions with an incident meter and I'm really off! And I don't mean just half or one stop!
Cheers,
Juan
jja
Well-known
Way to go Akiva! I def. feel more attuned to the light when I shoot w/ my meterless camera (but always w/ a hand-held meter), and tend to make better decisions about exposure.
kshapero
South Florida Man
I am learning from using the meter and from not using it.
ironhorse
Joe DuPont
I am still struggling with exposure using my new M3 even though I started shooting with a Pentax Spotmatic in 1970. It is amazing to find out how much I constantly think about exposure now having a meterless camera. I think I have also compounded things by learning to use and trust an incident meter at the same time. It is quite a bit humbling to be going through this now after so many years relying on an internal camera meter.
kshapero
South Florida Man
I hear ya, Joe, loud and clear but it is somehow liberating at the same time.I am still struggling with exposure using my new M3 even though I started shooting with a Pentax Spotmatic in 1970. It is amazing to find out how much I constantly think about exposure now having a meterless camera. I think I have also compounded things by learning to use and trust an incident meter at the same time. It is quite a bit humbling to be going through this now after so many years relying on an internal camera meter.
Juan Valdenebro
Truth is beauty
I started with direct sun: no mystery there... Nothing to think.
Then with overcast at 1/250 and Tri-X at 200, and that goes from bright overcast f/8, to normal overcast f/5.6-f/4, to dark overcast f/2.8-f/2, to lead/rain overcast at f/1.4-f/1, so the game is tough!
Then with zones in shadows on sunny days: those change a lot!
After some years of trying hard, I feel I'm just beginning!
Cheers,
Juan
Then with overcast at 1/250 and Tri-X at 200, and that goes from bright overcast f/8, to normal overcast f/5.6-f/4, to dark overcast f/2.8-f/2, to lead/rain overcast at f/1.4-f/1, so the game is tough!
Then with zones in shadows on sunny days: those change a lot!
After some years of trying hard, I feel I'm just beginning!
Cheers,
Juan
paulfish4570
Veteran
you ain't -larnin' how to take pichers (you already take good pichers), but you is a-larnin' ta rede lite ... 
LeicaFan
Well-known
I would love to get an M3 one of these days to go along with my MP.
LeicaFan
Well-known
Wes, if you get a M3, your MP will feel lonely.
Why do you say that?
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
It's better with an M2!
:angel:
:angel:
kshapero
South Florida Man
Dudes, its all good.
matt335
Well-known
Akiva, a great story. One that I agree with. I'd love an M3. I have an M4 and carry a VCII in my pocket. Trial and error.
kshapero
South Florida Man
Maybe we will start an M2/M3/M4 epidemic.Akiva, a great story. One that I agree with. I'd love an M3. I have an M4 and carry a VCII in my pocket. Trial and error.
umcelinho
Marcelo
It's funny, I owned an M3 for a few months after buying one along with a DR Cron (it was a bundle) and both the 2 rolls I shot with it made me learn how to use a meterless camera, by not trying to adjust exposure I managed to take some shots I would normally miss with my M6 because I would have the reflex of trying to adjust the speed or the aperture.
I know it's kinda silly, as I could just take the batteries off my M6, but still I had this interesting moment with that M3. I regret selling it a bit, but since I sold it to a friend, who knows, if he decides do sell it I'll be there to buy it back
It had a fogged vf when I purchased it, but after a CLA its vf looked so much like new that i was smirking like a dork when I looked through it at the tech's office. buttery smooth as well, only after a year getting used to the M6 I could really tell the difference.
I know it's kinda silly, as I could just take the batteries off my M6, but still I had this interesting moment with that M3. I regret selling it a bit, but since I sold it to a friend, who knows, if he decides do sell it I'll be there to buy it back
dave lackey
Veteran
Good on you, Akiva...
I still find it fun to use the Soligor meter, the DSLR and the M3 back to back to check and also see the differences in the meter versus the camera meter versus what I pick. But, really, now you are going to start having fun like you never thought you would as you become "The Compleat Photographer"!
I still find it fun to use the Soligor meter, the DSLR and the M3 back to back to check and also see the differences in the meter versus the camera meter versus what I pick. But, really, now you are going to start having fun like you never thought you would as you become "The Compleat Photographer"!
ferider
Veteran
Wasn't kidding when calling this my dream combo:
When it's too dark for the iPhone, I don't use a meter anyways.
Enjoy the best camera Leica ever made, Akiva

When it's too dark for the iPhone, I don't use a meter anyways.
Enjoy the best camera Leica ever made, Akiva
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