ChrisP
Grain Lover
Okay so I tried asking this about leaf shutter cameras and didn't get much so I'll expand my search.
What is the quietest camera that:
Meters to for ISO 3200
Had a fast lens (f2 or faster) or has interchangeable
Is manual focus
shoots 35mm film
Can be shot in manual mode with the meter readout (you can't do this with most fixed lens rangefinders).
Or
A pretty much silent meterless camera with fast lens (or interchangeable lenses) and a small meter good for low light.
I have a Pentax MX right now and while I love the camera, I think the mirror slap sounds abnoxious.
Thanks in advance,
Chris
What is the quietest camera that:
Meters to for ISO 3200
Had a fast lens (f2 or faster) or has interchangeable
Is manual focus
shoots 35mm film
Can be shot in manual mode with the meter readout (you can't do this with most fixed lens rangefinders).
Or
A pretty much silent meterless camera with fast lens (or interchangeable lenses) and a small meter good for low light.
I have a Pentax MX right now and while I love the camera, I think the mirror slap sounds abnoxious.
Thanks in advance,
Chris
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Konica Hexar AF? (Has MF, but probably not in the way you want)
ChrisP
Grain Lover
Thats what I'm looking at
Thats what I'm looking at
I'm looking at the Hexar AF, I'd like something a little more "All Manual Mode" friendly so I posted to see if there are any alternatives.
Probably should have put that in the description.
My other big concern on the Hexar AF is the focus noise. Is it actually quieter than say a Leica M if you compare the focus noise of the Hexar to the shutter sound of an M?
Thats what I'm looking at
I'm looking at the Hexar AF, I'd like something a little more "All Manual Mode" friendly so I posted to see if there are any alternatives.
Probably should have put that in the description.
My other big concern on the Hexar AF is the focus noise. Is it actually quieter than say a Leica M if you compare the focus noise of the Hexar to the shutter sound of an M?
ZeissFan
Veteran
Here's the thing. By the time that a true 3200 film (which some debate) was widely available, the rangefinder market had shrunk to pretty much Leica.
And those rangefinders that were left generally were little P&S-style cameras with trap-needle autoexposure. There were very few full-featured fixed-lens rangefinders available after the early 1970s.
And those cameras that offered on-board metered support for ASA/ISO 3200 were now electronic highly automated SLRs.
I would be realistic about your needs. Just find a good camera that meets your criteria and then match it up with either a shoe-mount or handheld meter.
And those rangefinders that were left generally were little P&S-style cameras with trap-needle autoexposure. There were very few full-featured fixed-lens rangefinders available after the early 1970s.
And those cameras that offered on-board metered support for ASA/ISO 3200 were now electronic highly automated SLRs.
I would be realistic about your needs. Just find a good camera that meets your criteria and then match it up with either a shoe-mount or handheld meter.
tlitody
Well-known
Zeiss ZM. What more could you want. I'm now waiting for the budget price to be set below the price of a new camera.
jcrutcher
Veteran
Leica M7 fits the bill with either a summicron (f2.0) or summilux (f1.4). Digital readout when set to auto aperture priority or all manual, super quiet shutter release. You can buy for a good deal used.
jaredangle
Photojournalist
If you look at some of the cameras that meter to 800 or 1600 rather than 3200, that would likely expand your camera choice by a great deal, and then you could just increase your shutter speed the one or two stops necessary to simulate 3200.
ChrisP
Grain Lover
M Mount
M Mount
Yeah I was thinking about M mount. Whats the quietest M mount camera? Are all the Leica's similar? I'd probably be looking at an M5 or M6 just because of the price. Also how does the CL stack up against those?
M Mount
Yeah I was thinking about M mount. Whats the quietest M mount camera? Are all the Leica's similar? I'd probably be looking at an M5 or M6 just because of the price. Also how does the CL stack up against those?
Leica M7 fits the bill with either a summicron (f2.0) or summilux (f1.4). Digital readout when set to auto aperture priority or all manual, super quiet shutter release. You can buy for a good deal used.
venchka
Veteran
M5
Konica UC-Hexanon 35/2.0
oops. That would be my camera and lens. You can't have them.
The last film I shot in the M5 was 2 rolls of Kodak Tmax p3200. I need to get unlazy and share the results. I developed the film in Rodinal. They don't look as nice as Xtol 1:3.
ps: Or shoot the 3200 box speed films at 800-1200-1600. That's what I usually do.
pps: Don't fret the noise. I shoot Delta 3200 in the Pentax 6x7 and Hasselblad 501.
Konica UC-Hexanon 35/2.0
oops. That would be my camera and lens. You can't have them.
The last film I shot in the M5 was 2 rolls of Kodak Tmax p3200. I need to get unlazy and share the results. I developed the film in Rodinal. They don't look as nice as Xtol 1:3.
ps: Or shoot the 3200 box speed films at 800-1200-1600. That's what I usually do.
pps: Don't fret the noise. I shoot Delta 3200 in the Pentax 6x7 and Hasselblad 501.
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Zeiss ZM.
Not exactly quiet though!
tlitody
Well-known
Not exactly quiet though!
Check out the following page (at the bottom) from one of our members here:
http://elekm.net/zeiss_ikon/pages/body.html
It's really very quiet. Maybe not the absolute quietest but not far off. I assume the tests were carefully made to give a fair comparison (relative that is and not necessarily absolute due to vagaries of computer volume levels).
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Brian Legge
Veteran
Would t be possible to pick up something like a 7sII and have the meter adjusts or replaced with something more sensitive? The iso selection setting would be off by two stops so you'd have to remember that when setting it..
Oh, missed interchangeable. Never mind.
Oh, missed interchangeable. Never mind.
geotrupede
Member
Olympus OM 3?
cosmonaut
Well-known
Any camera with a meter. Set the cameras meter to say 800 or 1600 and just add the stops in your head. Exposure compensate in your brain.lol
pb908
Well-known
Double post, sorry.
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pb908
Well-known
Okay so I tried asking this about leaf shutter cameras and didn't get much so I'll expand my search.
What is the quietest camera that:
Meters to for ISO 3200
Had a fast lens (f2 or faster) or has interchangeable
Is manual focus
shoots 35mm film
Can be shot in manual mode with the meter readout (you can't do this with most fixed lens rangefinders).
Or
A pretty much silent meterless camera with fast lens (or interchangeable lenses) and a small meter good for low light.
I have a Pentax MX right now and while I love the camera, I think the mirror slap sounds abnoxious.
Thanks in advance,
Chris
hexar RF, meter up to 6400.
Ae + manual speed,
1/4000s,
add a nice 35mm f1.4 and you get what you want.
It has motorized winder, but that isn't loud either to me compare to leica fp shutter(i have hexar af, m2 in the past, and now hexar rf).
talking about hexar af, yes it is quiet, but the af will have a small whinning sound, which can be reduced in silent mode. In very quiet environtment, my friend at 1m can hear the af sound, enough to let him know that i am activating the camera. But in normal ambient sound, even without silent mode enabled, it is quet enough that you can do street snapshot without no one know.
Pherdinand
the snow must go on
hexar af wins by a horse's length. (sorry, translated expression) There's simply no other (film) camera that is more quiet.
Manual focus is overrated. An AF that is quick and reliable even in total darkness works pretty well.
Manual focus is overrated. An AF that is quick and reliable even in total darkness works pretty well.
kshapero
South Florida Man
I can shot my M3 at any speed I want and it is also the quietest camera you will find. What's the issue here?
ChrisPlatt
Thread Killer
Have you tried using a half case with your Pentax MX?
This should make it both quieter and more grippable...
Chris
This should make it both quieter and more grippable...
Chris
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