Buying Selling Blues

[Jodorowsky]

Oh for Rod's sake.... I was going to sell M8.... and Hexar RF.... and buy other stuff.... even started looking at Nikon stuff.... D700.... thought Nikon D700 and M6 would be good combo.... throw in a Hasselblad.... blah.....

Realised it's pointless selling my M8.... it's an excellent camera.... thing to do is make art with it! And whatever else I've got! So I'm going to keep what I've got..... signed up for a long summer course in printmaking. Will treat the M8 to a couple of top tip SDHC cards and a spanking new battery....

Still in the market for a decent medium format, though, and would like to sell the Hexar RF and get M4 or M6. Might get a D700 when the prices come down... looked at the D7000 too.... still wouldn't mind a 35mm Summilux to go with the Summicron and 50 Lux.... maybe a visoflex.....

Wah!

 

[Jodorowsky]

Update- just bought a Bronica EC (!!!!!?????)

 

[Keith]

I like the D700 idea ... but then I'm a little biased. Having started off a little luke warm with the chunky Nikon I've lately developed a very healthy respect for it ... it's capabilities are enormous IMO!

I only miss my M8 for the 'cool' factor in owning a digital M. 😛

 

[Jodorowsky]

I like the D700 idea a lot, too. I don't think it would be worth replacing the M8 with anything *less* than a D700.... At the moment though, I'm not ready to give up on the whole rangefinder thing. I could easily go with the D700 plus a decent lens if I sold my whole kit (Hexar RF, 50mm Summilux, 35mm Summicron IV, 21mm LTM, M8.... er Bronica EC), but I think I'd truly miss the rangefinder thing....

One of my biggest pleasures is to go hunting around my city looking for pictures, and for that, in daylight, the M8 works very well. I wish it didn't crop my lenses, though...

I want to do more landscapes/seascapes/cityscapes and to make prints of these. I'm going to learn to photo etch and to make photo lithographs this summer; I want to do more physical creating and less checking to see if anyone's commenting on my stuff on flickr- I've realised that this is damaging my photography.

What do you use the D700 for, Keith, and when have you ever missed the M8?

Lee

 

[Keith]

I do a little paid work shooting occasional gallery openings which originally was the sole reason I bought the D700 ... the M8 was plain running out of ISO in the gallery gloom and PP'ing noisy files was really starting to piss me off!

Lately I've warmed to using the Nikon a lot more for recreational shooting which I didn't think would happen due to it's bulk and weight plus my passion for the look of film ... forget the bulk and weight because this is one amazing camera that can just plain do anything and film will always be there when I want it. (hopefully)

I do miss the M8 occasionally because it offers such a unique shooting experience but the crop factor and the poor high ISO performance wore thin eventually.

 

[Jodorowsky]

Yes, that's exactly where I'm at with it; It's a testament to the camera that it's taken almost three years for me to want to move on. If I could afford it, I'd keep the M8, absolutely no problem, but I can't, so it's an either or. One other reason I've pulled back is that I wonder whether the D700 will come down in price by the end of the summer.... I'm going to carry on taking pictures regardless; my hexar is full of Tri X and I've just ordered some rolls of the same for the Bronica that's coming. I'll do this for a few months and see the lay of the land later...

 

[Chris C]

I'm in the same boat a little. I own an FM2n with the 45mm pancake but I just can't gel with it. My preferred method of shooting is defined by aperture selection, and I just don't like adjusting the shutter speed on the fly while shooting. It's just not in the right place for me to do it quickly so I either don't bother (having my images suffer) or don't bother taking the shot (making me suffer).

A Hexar RF has come up for a great price and it's very tempting, but I don't know if I can really justify it it the moment or if it'll even fix anything (I have wanted an M-mount camera for a while, though), meaning struggle for a while longer with the FM2 or be a little short on cash for a bit with the Hexar. In saying that I've also wanted a Mamiya 7 for the longest time…

It's a cruel game 🙁

 

[Jodorowsky]

It is a cruel, cruel game 🙂 We're just looking for a camera that will do everything we want at a price we can afford, in a market flexible enough to absorb our mistakes without much of a loss if we decide to move on.... It's not too much to ask, surely???

All I know is that I didn't want to ditch the M8 for something like, say, a Nikon D7000, that I had my beady eye on, too.

High ISO capabilities and full frame would really satisfy me, I think....

 

[sojournerphoto]

It is a cruel, cruel game 🙂 We're just looking for a camera that will do everything we want at a price we can afford, in a market flexible enough to absorb our mistakes without much of a loss if we decide to move on.... It's not too much to ask, surely???

All I know is that I didn't want to ditch the M8 for something like, say, a Nikon D7000, that I had my beady eye on, too.

High ISO capabilities and full frame would really satisfy me, I think....

Funny, I recently sold a 1Ds3 and quite a lotof glass, but kept M9, Ikons, M glass and Mamiya 7. As good as the 1Ds3 is (and I really liked it) it wasn't getting enough use ata time when I've an extension to build to keep it.

Even thuogh I have a strong suspicion that I'll buy another dslr one day - and the lenses - at the moment it's just not needed.

 

[Keith]

When you get a full frame digital, whether it be an M9, 5D or D700, you suddenly realise there's a whole world of beautiful glass out there that will work exactly the way it was meant to. 🙂

I don't think I could ever go back to a crop camera that compromises lens design.

 

[mfunnell]

When you get a full frame digital, whether it be an M9, 5D or D700, you suddenly realise there's a whole world of beautiful glass out there that will work exactly the way it was meant to. 🙂

I don't think I could ever go back to a crop camera that compromises lens design.

That really depends on the focal lengths you're using as well as the subjects.

Sometimes you need all the reach you can get:


If that means higher pixel density, smaller pixels and a crop factor then so be it.

That's not to say I don't love my 50mm/f1.2 on my 5D (original). Horses for courses and all...

...Mike

 

[jsrockit]

I only miss my M8 for the 'cool' factor in owning a digital M. 😛

Yeah, I mean that is the only reason to ever own a digital M8 right? 🙄
😉