disco2000
Established
Hello
I just developed a roll of Acros in d76 today, and found these dark, circular circles along one edge of my negatives. I've had these before, I'm guessing it's a developing issue, but what could be the exact cause of this be? Seems like those spots are being underdeveloped?
You can see they're all along the right side of this image.
I just developed a roll of Acros in d76 today, and found these dark, circular circles along one edge of my negatives. I've had these before, I'm guessing it's a developing issue, but what could be the exact cause of this be? Seems like those spots are being underdeveloped?
You can see they're all along the right side of this image.

oftheherd
Veteran
What was your development method? Is there a chance you didn't have sufficient developer in your tank, if you were using a tank?
jmcd
Well-known
What format? It could also be a problem with so much developer that it does not allow for enough movement to get fresh developer everywhere. I just cover the reels.
When I have had too much developer, I have had a band of under-development. And I have had sprocket spaced surge marks. But never circles.
Maybe it would be helpful to know everything: format, reel type, tank, etc.
When I have had too much developer, I have had a band of under-development. And I have had sprocket spaced surge marks. But never circles.
Maybe it would be helpful to know everything: format, reel type, tank, etc.
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disco2000
Established
It was a single 120 roll in a patterson tank. I used 500ml of developer vs the usual 600ml that I use, although I've had similar marks with 600ml before.
D76 1+1 10.5 minutes, agitated every minute.
D76 1+1 10.5 minutes, agitated every minute.
rajivk
Newbie
I suspect these are due to air bubbles. I had a similar problem and it took a while (and another 10 rolls) for me to figure out what was causing it. Check out the following links:
http://www.flickr.com/groups/diybw/discuss/72157623856440057/
http://www.apug.org/forums/forum37/53818-air-bubbles-during-development-observations.html
I just could not get rid of the air bubbles (something about the water here I guess) till I started using a couple of drops of Edwal LFN wetting agent along with the developer for 1 roll of 120 film. Problem solved
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Hope this helps.
Rajiv.
http://www.flickr.com/groups/diybw/discuss/72157623856440057/
http://www.apug.org/forums/forum37/53818-air-bubbles-during-development-observations.html
I just could not get rid of the air bubbles (something about the water here I guess) till I started using a couple of drops of Edwal LFN wetting agent along with the developer for 1 roll of 120 film. Problem solved
Hope this helps.
Rajiv.
ItsReallyDarren
That's really me
Was this inversion agitation or twirl stick agitation?
Roger Hicks
Veteran
Another vote for air bubbles. Bang the tank hard on the table a couple of times before you start agitation.
Cheers,
R.
Cheers,
R.
tj01
Well-known
Or tilt tank sideways and pour, leave room for air to exit.
disco2000
Established
I was inverting the tank. Air bubbles sounds right.. I do tap the tank, but I guess I need to be more vigorous. I wonder why it doesn't happen for 35mm though.
Thanks for the help everyone!
Thanks for the help everyone!
tlitody
Well-known
Agreed its bubbles. The spool slides up the core and doesn't go all the way back again if you don't tap it hard enough. With two spools and 600ml I think they are covered because there isn't room for them to slide up.
Ronald M
Veteran
Put something on the core so the reel does not slide. Rubber band? Spring?
No need to tip a Patterson tank while filling. Developer goes down center funnel and fill bottom up very nicely which is exactly what you want. A perfect system.
First agitation is supposed to be with stick immediately after developer goes in. ALL others are to be inversion only.
No need to tip a Patterson tank while filling. Developer goes down center funnel and fill bottom up very nicely which is exactly what you want. A perfect system.
First agitation is supposed to be with stick immediately after developer goes in. ALL others are to be inversion only.
Pherdinand
the snow must go on
could be foam as well. Yea ok, foam is about the same as air bubbles (but not exactly) 
LeicaFoReVer
Addicted to Rangefinders
why dont you put a little more developer so that even if you have the bubbles they will not reach down to the film border...
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