bigeye
Well-known
That would be pretty early for a Nikon. They were just starting to export at that time.
This elegant lady is not getting the same attention. Rush hour, Rome 1952, IIIf 50 elmar.
39per1
Established
Agree, and I have been living in Italy for 25 years (although not in the 50's...). By the way, similar situations still occur in Italy, i.e., a group of men (3,4, seldom I saw larger group of just men in Italy, except for soccer games) turning or stopping to look at a nice girl. They try do to it much more inconspicuously now. I know because I do it.
....I agree....that wasn't an unusual scene in Italy, in the 50's.
I don't think it's staged......
39per1
Established
...unusual, in the 50's to see a young, tall girl, lightly dressed walking alone in town.....as I tell you, those thing could appened at that time.....the country mood change heavily in the second half of the 60's/early 70's....
swoop
Well-known
My history of photography professor told me years ago it was staged.
JohnTF
Veteran
Made more than a few trips across the pond, and one thing, a good looking, well dressed woman is not surprised to be looked at by men or women with a smile, and have never noticed their offence at the attention.
My friend Martina was having a drink at a friend's apartment on a hot day, she had chosen a flowing dress that had slits up the side, and she wore nothing I noticed under it. I was talking to her, with her remarking that it was a hot summer day and it was a cool dress.
She laughed and remarked, she had no trouble with traffic crossing the street that day.
Had I a heads up, I may have followed with camera in hand. Perhaps she staged her day?
My friends seem to feel you should be attractive and young to pull this off, but hardly uncommon, much like the beaches.
I have seen women followed by with over the top attention, with a French woman turned, threatening to put a baguette in a physically difficult location to an Italian, to applause from the people in the area.
Regards, John
My friend Martina was having a drink at a friend's apartment on a hot day, she had chosen a flowing dress that had slits up the side, and she wore nothing I noticed under it. I was talking to her, with her remarking that it was a hot summer day and it was a cool dress.
She laughed and remarked, she had no trouble with traffic crossing the street that day.
Had I a heads up, I may have followed with camera in hand. Perhaps she staged her day?
My friends seem to feel you should be attractive and young to pull this off, but hardly uncommon, much like the beaches.
I have seen women followed by with over the top attention, with a French woman turned, threatening to put a baguette in a physically difficult location to an Italian, to applause from the people in the area.
Regards, John
Gabriel M.A.
My Red Dot Glows For You
My history of the world professor told me years ago that Nero had played the fiddle while Rome burned --but he was wrong twofold: fiddles hadn't been invented yet, and Nero was miles away when Rome was burning.
Vics
Veteran
Yep, stunning for sure!
Vics
Veteran
Why just the fifties? My wife and I traveled to Italy for a short visit in 1978, and at one point we found ourselves on a train full of Italian soldiers. They took turns for several hours standing outside our compartment in groups, staring at my lovely young red-haired wife. It made me a little nervous, but she seemed to like all the attention!
JohnTF
Veteran
Well, when in Rome. ;-)
Nothing wrong with polite looking, the obnoxious ones I have seen have all been on vacation in another country-- bottom pinchers, etc.
Someone touched a friend of mine in a Metro Station crowd on the stairs on Line 7 in Paris, in a crowd, I thought he was trying for her purse, and I smacked the guy, and he apologized to me in French -saying he did not know she was my wife. My friend did not go in to details, but at that time had I known his intentions am afraid twerp would have had a rapid decent on the stairs. Actually, without the crowd, my friend easily could have responded physically on her own.
Regards, John
peterm1
Veteran
This kind of behaviour was apparently once common in Britain too. I recall reading a story about the Globe Theatre in Shakespeare's day. Seems a woman came home to her husband after a day out at the theatre watching a play only to find her purse and money had been stolen. The husband asked how it had happened. She responded - "Well I felt the hand groping me in the crowd, and I would have objected had I know it was only after the purse."
peterm1
Veteran
Since when is the woman in this photo stunning?
Anyway, I never realized it was "staged"...
"As for whether or not the photo was staged, Craig says no way. "The big debate about the picture, which everyone always wants to know, is: Was it staged? No! No, no, no! You don't have 15 men in a picture and take just two shots. The men were just there . . . . The only thing that happened was that Ruth Orkin was wise enough to ask me to turn around and go back and repeat" the walk down the street."
Yes, i.e. staged.
I take it from the wink that you are joking about whether she is stunning or not.
Just in case anyone doubts it then look at this further link, which incidentally tells more of the story of the encounter.
This lady was hot hot hot. At least as I understand the term. Very beautiful - just the kind of beauty that is likely to appeal to a Eurpoean man I would say.
http://www.orkinphoto.com/photographs/american-girl/
39per1
Established
....hey mate, military service was compulsory, here, 'till 10 years ago.....think about 1000 male betewen 18/28 years old all togheter in ahuge baracks with no girls among them.....what do you think we have in our mind for all the day? I was on duty in 1994, nothing was changed at that time.....now is different, we have a volunteer army, women are on duty
ped
Small brown dog
Some seriously high trousers on the left hand side.
Don't really like the picture myself.
Don't really like the picture myself.
raid
Dad Photographer
I've always liked this image, and I've always felt that it was staged. It was to me a street scene to highlight a stereo-type Italian men behaviour towards women.
Who cares?
Who cares?