Macmook
Tenebrous
Some purists may chuckle, but I just received an EF-X20 for my XP1. Looks like a reasonable fill flash for casual use.
More to follow...
Regards,
Alex
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Regards,
Alex
EF-X20 Flash
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Yes, please follow up with some results.
kdemas
Enjoy Life.
Those little buggers are hard to find at the moment. I have one on order.
Dante_Stella
Rex canum cattorumque
The bigger one, the EF-X42, is a lot more fun, though it has a curious and vestigial AF illuminator (thanks, er... Sunpak).
Macmook
Tenebrous
EF-X42? Didn't know there was one. But you are right. The EF-42 certainly has more utility, is much more flexible, etc.
With the raw speed of the XP1 I just wanted a small fill flash.
With the raw speed of the XP1 I just wanted a small fill flash.
chris00nj
Young Luddite
There is only the EF-42, which I picked up this weekend. I was curious about the EF-x20, but it didn't seem to be available anywhere.
As you said, you don't need the flash to get exposure but for fill.
Dante_Stella
Rex canum cattorumque
Sorry - added a digit. Note that the EF-42 is a pretty big flash. It only has TTL and manual, EV comp does not work in auto ISO, and it does not have a ready-made snap-on diffuser (if that matters to you). I keep meaning to use it for outdoor fill, but I never seem to be outside when it is light anymore! Although the AF assist is decorative, its distance scale and ISO do react to settings on the camera.
If you can live with auto, two easier and much cheaper choices are the Vivitar 2800 and the Nikon SB-30. With the SB-30, you can put the flash on slave, the camera on internal-commander, and simply hold the flash face up in your palm and bounce off the ceiling. You'll eventually get the intuitive feel for the aperture to use given the distance. Generally pretty forgiving with Auto DR.
The EF-42 is cheapest on Amazon, where you can get an open box for like $140.
I don't see a lot of fun in an expensive, small flash that has limited bounce capabilties and sits so close to the lens axis. The EF-42, however, is a big one!
Best,
Dante
If you can live with auto, two easier and much cheaper choices are the Vivitar 2800 and the Nikon SB-30. With the SB-30, you can put the flash on slave, the camera on internal-commander, and simply hold the flash face up in your palm and bounce off the ceiling. You'll eventually get the intuitive feel for the aperture to use given the distance. Generally pretty forgiving with Auto DR.
The EF-42 is cheapest on Amazon, where you can get an open box for like $140.
I don't see a lot of fun in an expensive, small flash that has limited bounce capabilties and sits so close to the lens axis. The EF-42, however, is a big one!
Best,
Dante
gavinlg
Veteran
Definitely getting one of these. Seems to be the only flash on earth that's both small and has full manual control via rotary dial. feel free to post more pics and impressions!
Arjay
Time Traveller
Interesting - how do you trigger your SB-30? The X-Pro1 doesn't have an internal flash.
And as to Auto DR, I am questioning the usefulness of this mode in conjunction with flash photography. The camera will determine the actual DR value based on an ambient-light exposure measurement before the shot. So in all likelihood it will ramp up the DR value to a maximum, both forcing a minimum ISO value of 800 and producing pulled-up shadows with more than necessary noise in the shadow regions.
Dante_Stella
Rex canum cattorumque
Sorry - should have mentioned that this was the X100!
It would have been nice to drop an IR trigger into the mostly blank top plate of the X-Pro1. Or even a small flash. I have no idea what is in that huge top section, unless it is just cooling for the microprocessors (which are massively faster than the X100's).
Has anyone else yet noticed that the X-Pro1 is much more conservative on TTL flash exposure than the X100? With the EF-42, I seem to have to crank it up 2/3 of a stop to get as much light.
Dante
It would have been nice to drop an IR trigger into the mostly blank top plate of the X-Pro1. Or even a small flash. I have no idea what is in that huge top section, unless it is just cooling for the microprocessors (which are massively faster than the X100's).
Has anyone else yet noticed that the X-Pro1 is much more conservative on TTL flash exposure than the X100? With the EF-42, I seem to have to crank it up 2/3 of a stop to get as much light.
Dante
andrew00
Established
Do you feel the EF-X20 adds much to the X100?
I can see it working well w/the X-Pro1 as that doesn't have a flash. But the X100 does and I'm curious whether it's overkill.
I like the EF-20 and think the combo of the X100 and EF-X20 is interesting, but I'm curious of your thoughts.
Could give an interesting powerful on camera flash look?
I can see it working well w/the X-Pro1 as that doesn't have a flash. But the X100 does and I'm curious whether it's overkill.
I like the EF-20 and think the combo of the X100 and EF-X20 is interesting, but I'm curious of your thoughts.
Could give an interesting powerful on camera flash look?
armanius
Member
Any photos using the EF-X20? Any thoughts on the built-in diffuser? Or the inability to bounce the EF-X20?
Thanks!
Thanks!
Arjay
Time Traveller
As opposed to the EF-20 and EF-42, the EF-X20 has a slave mode that can trigger both on TTL flashes (uses 2nd flash) or on manual flashes (uses 1st flash). So, it is a nice addition to the X100's integrated flash or to any of the other Fuji flashes (when used with the X-Pro1).
When used as a slave, the EF-X20 operates as a manual flash, with selectable power levels from 1/64 to 1/1. Supporting slave use, the EF-X20 also has a tripod mount thread, so you can mount it e.g. on a table top tripod.
When used as a slave, the EF-X20 operates as a manual flash, with selectable power levels from 1/64 to 1/1. Supporting slave use, the EF-X20 also has a tripod mount thread, so you can mount it e.g. on a table top tripod.
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