M10 Specs Up

To those who so adamantly claimed that an M should never have live view or video: I am looking forward to seeing how many of you conveniently forget that you ever held that opinion as soon as you've pre-ordered.

The lack of live view has been a MAJOR limitation of the digital M's up to now. I am delighted to see that Leica sees these issues with clearer eyes than some of the more Luddite Leica fans do.
 
I think the new M should have been an M9 with a new sensor, faster innards and live view. This is just too much change. Here's to waiting for the special edition "M classic."
 
They talk about the M-E's quiet shutter, but they don't say that it's new or any different than the M8.2/M9 shutter. And they don't talk about new M's the shutter at all. So I'm not clear on what's going on there.

The prices are still Leica prices, but at least they didn't go up exponentially again.

The new M looks like they've actually listened to photographer's needs and responded as they can. The real question is going to be how the new sensor compares to the competition. The lack of stupid-high ISOs like 12,800 and up probably won't be an issue to real photographers, especially with f/1.4 lenses. If it delivers a clean 3200 and a decently usable 6400, I think a lot of Leica users will be satisfied.
 
leica should give the opportunity to upgrade the electronics of this new "M"
it would be great to assure to the buyers at least 2 upgrade available in 3/4 years each.
same body, different electronics.
they could charge 2000/2500 euros to have a brand new updated sensor and circuitry.

leica bodies could come back to their analogial splendour.
 
Live view, higher ISO, and splash-proof are nice, overdue touches. Splash-proof body not so useful without splash-proof lenses though.

My inclination is still to go for a an OM-D/Panasonic splash-proof, reasonably-fast zoom combination to complement my M9. But then I'm starting from a position of already having the M9. If I didn't already have a digital M (not the "M"), I'd have more interest in this.
 
Peter Klein said:
If it delivers a clean 3200 and a decently usable 6400, I think a lot of Leica users will be satisfied.
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I agree with Peter. And I think that Leica is going to sell as many of these as they can make. I wonder if it will be possible to mount, say, Nikon or Olympus glass on this thing with an aftermarket adapter? If so, you may just see folks cherry picking the best glass they can afford to slap on this sucker -- like a universal FF platform. You can't do that with a Canon/Nikon/Sony/Pentax (although Canon comes close(er)). Hey, I've always had a soft spot for the Konica 57/1.2 AR. . .

Ben
 
The lack of splash proof lenses is probably less of an issue with Leica since there are no electronics in the lenses themselves to be damaged by water. Water infiltration through the lens is possible of course, but it's probably less of an issue than the mount, switches, ports, and buttons. Probably not done to Oly standards, but a decent step up from the old bodies.

sevres_babylone said:
Live view, higher ISO, and splash-proof are nice, overdue touches. Splash-proof body not so useful without splash-proof lenses though.

My inclination is still to go for a an OM-D/Panasonic splash-proof, reasonably-fast zoom combination to complement my M9. But then I'm starting from a position of already having the M9. If I didn't already have a digital M (not the "M"), I'd have more interest in this.
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sepiareverb said:
I'd be tempted to buy another M9 as a parts (or replacement) camera if the M line is heading farther away from simple low-tech (as digital cameras go).
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I think the existence of the ME means a refresh of the support timeline for the M9, as the internals appear to be the same. So this is good news for M9 owners. Even so I would love to find a serious user M9 all dinged and dented with broken lcd but working insides... i'd buy it for parts.
 
swoop said:
So the M-E is literally an M9 sans frameline selector? Or am I missing something?
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From what I can see.. yes.. but at a better price $5450 US (according to Steve Huff and others).

$5450 US is still a lot of money.. about the same as a used M9 P today.

As someone who is looking to buy his first full frame digital that makes choosing Leica a bit easier to justify... I already have the the lenses so the ME or a reconditioned MP / M9P will be within my price range.
 
moreammo said:
where did you see the ME has faster write speeds? looks like it has the same internals. i would love a link to that info.
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I just assumed at the spur of the moment, even I did not suspect that this is just a M9 in new clothes.
 
OlliL said:
Here's the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_4xHIqU4t8&sns=em

Hope the link works, since I'm on my iPad.
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So basically a DSLR-like functionality in a M Leica.

But is it any longer an M Leica? Or its something more like a, "Leica M lenses utility device with an optional rangefinder".

Lets face it, once people use that EVF with focus peaking rangefinder OVF is no longer the first option... So, in the end of the day Leica itself killed its only USP (unique selling point) which is the rangefinder OVF.

Bad day for rangefinder photography?
 
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