Full frame anyone?
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olelovold
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This would be fantastic. This is what I'd like to see in a FF X-Pro 1:
- 36MP CMOS with a modified lowpass-filter, D800E-style. Alternatively X-Trans, if RAW is no longer problematic.
- Same hybrid viewfinder as the X-Pro 1, perhaps larger, with another magnification option, with the latest of EVF tech
- New line of weathersealed lenses with leaf shutters (1/1600 sync) and optical performance on par with today's 35mm f/1.4
- PDAF/CDAF hybrid, like the NEX-6
- Weathersealed body
- At least 800 photos on a battery
- Battery/SD-compartment on the side of the body, rather than underneath
/dream
- 36MP CMOS with a modified lowpass-filter, D800E-style. Alternatively X-Trans, if RAW is no longer problematic.
- Same hybrid viewfinder as the X-Pro 1, perhaps larger, with another magnification option, with the latest of EVF tech
- New line of weathersealed lenses with leaf shutters (1/1600 sync) and optical performance on par with today's 35mm f/1.4
- PDAF/CDAF hybrid, like the NEX-6
- Weathersealed body
- At least 800 photos on a battery
- Battery/SD-compartment on the side of the body, rather than underneath
/dream
boomguy57
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I'd also like it to unfold, Transformer-style, into an ice cream machine. And if it could sing lullabies to help me fall asleep at night, that would be sweet.
Oh, and I'd need it to come in under $500.
...crazy dreamers 😛
olelovold
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Haha, forgive me for dreaming. Sure, it'd be expensive. But: who would not want it? Landscape people would love it because of the resolution, weathersealing and lightweight construction. Fashion, portrait and studio photographers would love it for the resolution, the leaf shutter and the unintimidating appearance. Street people will love it for the hybrid VF. Everyone would love it because of its size, weight and looks compared to an SLR, while delivering the same IQ - just as people love the X-Pro 1 today for its output compared to similar resolution APS-C counterparts. I know the only reason I'm still clinging on to medium format is its superior resolution, and of course the different aesthetic obtained by the much larger format.
boomguy57
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I'm just messing around. We all play up resolution, etc...and then 98% of us just upload to flickr or the RFF gallery anyway 😛
olelovold
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Actually, when you mention it..
- GPS
- WiFi for quick transfer of photos and wireless tethering in the studio
- Sub £4000 price tag
- GPS
- WiFi for quick transfer of photos and wireless tethering in the studio
- Sub £4000 price tag
GaryLH
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Gps and wifi as hw accessories I am ok w/ but not part of base it adds cost for hw features that most people don't need..
Gary
lam
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I want it to shoot through walls. :bang:
semilog
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Exactly. How many of us are taking photos for which the sensor in the X-Pro or a D-7000 or a NEX-7 is inadequate? And remember, smaller sensors are still improving very rapidly.
I'd take a 48 megapixel, backside-illuminated APS-C sensor over any FF sensor currently on the market. And a sensor like the one I've just described is not far off. I'm guessing 2-3 years at the most.
BlackXList
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Needs to do more than 800 shots on a charge, and to have a high ISO ceiling, because if they really go into this market hard it's not to be a leica killer, it'd take a huge bite out of the Big DSLR market.
If they resolve the anecdotal AF issues, I'd certainly look at going fuji to replace my 1Dmk2. I'm utterly impressed (admittedly as a spectator rather than a user, because I haven't tried them) by what Fuji has been doing recently.
I've definitely been waiting on the FF bodies, both because I'd like to use my old lenses as intended, but also for the low light performance.
Very interesting development, and I look forward to seeing what comes of it.
If they resolve the anecdotal AF issues, I'd certainly look at going fuji to replace my 1Dmk2. I'm utterly impressed (admittedly as a spectator rather than a user, because I haven't tried them) by what Fuji has been doing recently.
I've definitely been waiting on the FF bodies, both because I'd like to use my old lenses as intended, but also for the low light performance.
Very interesting development, and I look forward to seeing what comes of it.
GaryLH
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Fuji already addressed the af issues with the fw 2.0 update to make most people happy.. Check out the fw update threads in the xp1 sub forum.
Gary
Rogier
Rogier Willems
Other than my iPhone any other digital camera I might consider will be Full Frame (or bigger ;-)
BlackXList
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Exactly why I said "anecdotal", and as I mentioned I've not been a user of the X series, as much as I admire them (and I'm impressed with how Fuji seems to listen to it's users and rectify issues, very classy).
I'm hugely impressed with what Fuji have done with these cameras, to me they're THE manufacturer who has updated form factors in an intelligent, (and to me appealing) way.
I remember reading a few years ago that the one Manufacturer that Canon & Nikon were legitimately wary of was Fuji, at the time that statement made me wonder, it turns out that they were very right to worry, Fuji are doing fantastic things.
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willie_901
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The AF issues at this point have more to do with he limits of contrast detection AF and people's unfamiliarity with how to operate the camera. This statements assumes you would use the camera to replace or augment an analog RF camera. Focusing with non-Fuji lenses has to be much easier with this week's firmware. But I have never used adapted lenses on the XP 1. For use with adapted lenses focusing may still be need improvement. But I really don't know.
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
Is it just me or is this trend of having several threads devoted to the one subject/news item becoming a little painful.
Maybe I need more coffee? 😛
Maybe I need more coffee? 😛
willie_901
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sector99
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A few days ago I offered that Fjui would pop in with a FF sensor and a "gentleman" called me down for the idea.
"Why would Fuji do a FF this so close to the XE-1 aps-c"? was his myopic view.
Well, well, well. Fuji will roll out a FF X-Trans sensor. Let's call it the SUMO-XF.
Here's where 24MP is really more than 24MP because we find fewer X-Trans red and blue filters with more greens. The Bayer idea had too many reds and blues––wasting sensor real estate for over a decade.
Independently measured resolution performance is clearly superior to Bayer filtered sensors so Fuji has implemented a true advance in digital imaging.
http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/photo-news/539153/fuji-investigates-full-frame-system-camera-sensor
No wonder Carl Zeiss backed Fuji up with CSC AF lenses.
2013 will be VERY interesting.
"Why would Fuji do a FF this so close to the XE-1 aps-c"? was his myopic view.
Well, well, well. Fuji will roll out a FF X-Trans sensor. Let's call it the SUMO-XF.
Here's where 24MP is really more than 24MP because we find fewer X-Trans red and blue filters with more greens. The Bayer idea had too many reds and blues––wasting sensor real estate for over a decade.
Independently measured resolution performance is clearly superior to Bayer filtered sensors so Fuji has implemented a true advance in digital imaging.
http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/photo-news/539153/fuji-investigates-full-frame-system-camera-sensor
No wonder Carl Zeiss backed Fuji up with CSC AF lenses.
2013 will be VERY interesting.
Adanac
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I've read the article and see nothing to warrant such enthusiasm.
All the Fujifilm individual said was they are investigating sensor and processor options, the sort of preliminary look see one does before going *any* further including day dreaming. It is the sort of answer a manager will give when pressed with a question, and is exactly the sort of response you'd expect from Fujifilm, or any other maker, that gets caught off guard by a sudden move from a competitor.
From this innocuous comment made during one interview, suddenly, a full frame Fujfilm X camera is destiny. That simply doesn't make sense given what is known today.
It may come to pass, but certainly based on the available "evidence" there's no reason to feel confident it is ever going to happen, and if it were to transpire, that it'd be any time soon.
All the Fujifilm individual said was they are investigating sensor and processor options, the sort of preliminary look see one does before going *any* further including day dreaming. It is the sort of answer a manager will give when pressed with a question, and is exactly the sort of response you'd expect from Fujifilm, or any other maker, that gets caught off guard by a sudden move from a competitor.
From this innocuous comment made during one interview, suddenly, a full frame Fujfilm X camera is destiny. That simply doesn't make sense given what is known today.
It may come to pass, but certainly based on the available "evidence" there's no reason to feel confident it is ever going to happen, and if it were to transpire, that it'd be any time soon.
denizg7
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holy **** so tired with this full frame talk on digital