Marc G.
film loving student
Sorry for all the dots... but sometimes especially when the weather sucks and I cant go out to shoot or do anything I do something very bad... I read forums & reviews....:bang:
Just for today... if stores would be still up and one was down the road here I'd go there and look at the Macro Elmar 90mm and the 35mm 1.4 pre asph... sometimes reading makes you sick and you could fall seriously for GAS. All this shiny glass... some of it vintage with many invisible memories... some new...
I hope I'm not the only madman who feels like that because I dont miss anything in my kit... practically. My 50 and the 28 is everything I need. But I've seen many around Leica/RF forums who have a lot lenses (and a lot to me is more than 4 actually
).. some for their character/performance, some because you dont want to give it away.. so I think I'm not alone on that point. I'm just lacking the budget to give in to that certain voice asking for more glass
Who else feels like that? what do you do about it other than buying I think I'll get some serious and thick books to get me from looking at other lenses...
Cheers
Just for today... if stores would be still up and one was down the road here I'd go there and look at the Macro Elmar 90mm and the 35mm 1.4 pre asph... sometimes reading makes you sick and you could fall seriously for GAS. All this shiny glass... some of it vintage with many invisible memories... some new...
I hope I'm not the only madman who feels like that because I dont miss anything in my kit... practically. My 50 and the 28 is everything I need. But I've seen many around Leica/RF forums who have a lot lenses (and a lot to me is more than 4 actually
).. some for their character/performance, some because you dont want to give it away.. so I think I'm not alone on that point. I'm just lacking the budget to give in to that certain voice asking for more glass Who else feels like that? what do you do about it other than buying
I think I'll get some serious and thick books to get me from looking at other lenses... Cheers
ottluuk
the indecisive eternity
go to the pub with some friends?
Vincent.G
Well-known
Work on a personal website to showcase your photos?
ramosa
B&W
marc: i go through similar stretches, especially in having a young child. but i wouldn't let bad weather keep you inside; some great captures can be made in the rain or snow or whatever. i have a 28, 35, 50 and 90 currently, but really only have the 28 for use on my M8 (per its crop). i'm sure i could more than survive with just 35-50-90 or even 35-90 or 35-75/80. in fact, i sold an 80mm earlier this year--and it's the only lens i ever regret selling ... as it'd make for a wonderful two-lens kit. alas, try to get out in the weather and shoot a few rolls or fill a few cards. i did that for a few hours last week and remain inspired and even purged by the experience.
Marc G.
film loving student
Yeah I did that too... it stopped raining after half an hour and shot for about 4 hours at that location.. which was wonderful because I got 6 rolls filled up with wonderful B&W images from an old castle area around here... but still, sometimes its raining so heavily that you cannot do anything but run....
sure it would make a great 2 lens kit but actually I found really what I was looking for in my 2 lenses... I'm more the 28/50 rather than 35 type... just the 90mm I'm yet interested in but need to make sure focus accuracy is fine with my 0.58 viewfinder (which I love!)... guess I'll test a tele elmarit soon to see if it would fit me
sometimes vintage glass like an old summicron 50, summilux 35 pre asph or summaron 35... is just so tempting
besides.. I'm working on a website and my friends are home during semester break...
ottluuk
the indecisive eternity
--- just the 90mm I'm yet interested in but need to make sure focus accuracy is fine with my 0.58 viewfinder (which I love!)... guess I'll test a tele elmarit soon to see if it would fit me
sometimes vintage glass like an old summicron 50, summilux 35 pre asph or summaron 35... is just so tempting
Or maybe you could combine test-driving a 90 with vintage glass... and get a classic 9cm f/4 Elmar
. They are cheap (€150-200 should definitely get you a nice coated one from the '50s - either M-mount or LTM+adapter), tiny and surprisingly capable. I certainly like mine quite a bit. See this guy's flickr set for inspiration (and that's the old uncoated version). So much for anti-buying advice .pete hogan
Well-known
+1 on the Elmar f/4 90mm. Some put it down, but it's low cost and effective on my Barnack. In this activity you have to take the bait once in a while.
Marc G.
film loving student
thanks for the advice! when I look at the tele elmarit I'll ask them whether they have one of these... but I think the tele elmarit is unbeatable if you want large aperture+lightweight+compact... 2.8, 230g, less size than my lux I think
when talking about 90mm... why is the Elmar-C 4.0 so cheap & unpopular.. is it performance? its 200€ flat where I look
when talking about 90mm... why is the Elmar-C 4.0 so cheap & unpopular.. is it performance? its 200€ flat where I look
ottluuk
the indecisive eternity
Not performance. It is said to approach the thin Tele-Elmar quality when in good condition. The main reason is that it was made for the Leica CL and some people have a tendency to turn their noses up to anything connected with the CL as impure or whatever
. That, and the fact that it is slow, I think. It also has an uncommon filter thread. There is a Minolta-branded counterpart that takes easier-to find filters, if I'm not mistaken.Marc G.
film loving student
yeah that explains the price well some things in Leica land are connected to philosophy..
btw its raining here so heavily I cant even open the window without being flooded... time for gear griefing ...
well some things in Leica land are connected to philosophy..btw its raining here so heavily I cant even open the window without being flooded... time for gear griefing ...
ottluuk
the indecisive eternity
yeah that explains the price
btw its raining here so heavily I cant even open the window without being flooded... time for gear griefing ...
Time for dreaming about owning a Nikonos, then
.Marc G.
film loving student
time to dream about the old but mint Leitz medium format camera my grandpa wants to give me at the upcoming weekend... have no idea what it will be like...
pete hogan
Well-known
I got a very nice f/4 90 Elmar here on RFF. It's relatively small and thus good on a Barnack. Living in the West, with lots of sunny 16 and aperture closed down for the shooting I do, the speed is not too important. Still, we like to think about more lenses. The 4-90 fits in my kit pretty well.
ruby.monkey
Veteran
Roger Hicks in a bikini!
There. That took your mind off it, didn't it?
There. That took your mind off it, didn't it?
Marc G.
film loving student
I think I'm kind of an outsider since I didnt get that one
mfogiel
Veteran
The problem with lenses, is that in reality you do not need many of them, but you don't know it before you buy.
Having bought and used a lot of lenses, I would say that the 28/35/50/90 set covers 99% of even demanding shooting needs.
If I had to restrict myself to these 4 lenses only, I would choose:
28/2 Summicron
- when you want wide, you often want to use it in interiors or in the street when it is dark. The 28 Summicron is the only wide angle f 2.0 lens I know that has almost no coma wide open. You can shoot it at night with confidence, and it is not big either. I use the lens hood for the Summilux 35 on mine, and it works much better than the original hood, which is ridiculous. Here's a shot wide open:
20113908 by mfogiel, on Flickr
35/1.2 Nokton
- this is a lens which has only one flaw - a bit of barrel distortion, apart from this, for the quality it delivers, and versatility it offers, there are no equals. The bokeh is also great. I admit, I prefer to use a Summicron or Summaron for street shooting when the light is ok, but if I had t choose only one, that would be it.
Nokton 35/1.2 shot wide open from the era when I still used to shoot colour at times:
CAFFE' A MILANO by mfogiel, on Flickr
-50/1.4 Summilux pre asph
This is a lens that can do everything, and it does not suffer from harsh bokeh or excessive or insufficient sharpness, it is the best all round lens ever, maybe with the exception of the Noctilux 50/1.0 if you can stand the weight.
Summilux 50 pre asph @f 2.8
20123724 by mfogiel, on Flickr
- 90/2 Summicron
This is a lens that I use in the R version, but I know that the M version if anything is slightly better. This is THE portrait lens par excellence, and even if somebody will wax nostalgic about the Summilux 75/80 or whatever else, just don't listen. This is a lens that lets you make tighter portraits like no other. The only competitor it has, is the C Sonnar 50/1.5, but this is an entirely different story.
Summicron 90/2 @f 2.8:
20125318 by mfogiel, on Flickr
Having bought and used a lot of lenses, I would say that the 28/35/50/90 set covers 99% of even demanding shooting needs.
If I had to restrict myself to these 4 lenses only, I would choose:
28/2 Summicron
- when you want wide, you often want to use it in interiors or in the street when it is dark. The 28 Summicron is the only wide angle f 2.0 lens I know that has almost no coma wide open. You can shoot it at night with confidence, and it is not big either. I use the lens hood for the Summilux 35 on mine, and it works much better than the original hood, which is ridiculous. Here's a shot wide open:
20113908 by mfogiel, on Flickr
35/1.2 Nokton
- this is a lens which has only one flaw - a bit of barrel distortion, apart from this, for the quality it delivers, and versatility it offers, there are no equals. The bokeh is also great. I admit, I prefer to use a Summicron or Summaron for street shooting when the light is ok, but if I had t choose only one, that would be it.
Nokton 35/1.2 shot wide open from the era when I still used to shoot colour at times:
CAFFE' A MILANO by mfogiel, on Flickr
-50/1.4 Summilux pre asph
This is a lens that can do everything, and it does not suffer from harsh bokeh or excessive or insufficient sharpness, it is the best all round lens ever, maybe with the exception of the Noctilux 50/1.0 if you can stand the weight.
Summilux 50 pre asph @f 2.8
20123724 by mfogiel, on Flickr
- 90/2 Summicron
This is a lens that I use in the R version, but I know that the M version if anything is slightly better. This is THE portrait lens par excellence, and even if somebody will wax nostalgic about the Summilux 75/80 or whatever else, just don't listen. This is a lens that lets you make tighter portraits like no other. The only competitor it has, is the C Sonnar 50/1.5, but this is an entirely different story.
Summicron 90/2 @f 2.8:
20125318 by mfogiel, on Flickr
Marc G.
film loving student
yep... these 4 focal lengths are the ones I finally want...
28 Elmarit ASPH
35 Cron ASPH (chrome version of course!)
50 Lux ASPH
90 most stylish would be the cron pre asph in chrome... but 700 grams.. what the heck! most likely to be the tele elmarit, latter version I'm thinking about at the moment
28 Elmarit ASPH
35 Cron ASPH (chrome version of course!)
50 Lux ASPH
90 most stylish would be the cron pre asph in chrome... but 700 grams.. what the heck! most likely to be the tele elmarit, latter version I'm thinking about at the moment