zuiko85
Veteran
I have bad times with meters. They quit on me. So now, except for a little Gossen Pilot, I just use my DSLR for a meter.
I have never used a meter outdoors and was using friend's meters in studio. There's a big chance that if you have shot enough without one you don't need one.
Absolutely false. RFF is filled with people who claim that they do not need a meter (and they're shooting old cameras that do not have one built in). It shows in the quality of their work. Why half-ass things? The photo world is so competitive, why put yourself at a disadvantage just so you can thump you chest in some silly ego trip.
I've been shooting for almost 30 years. I still use a meter, every time. The kind of lighting where it is easy to guess exposure is the ugliest light. In early mornings and late evenings, as well as night work and indoor work, it is impossible for anyone to accurately guess exposure consistently.
In fact, a good meter is so vital to producing consistently high image quality that I'll go so far as to say that even trying to save money by buying an old or cheap one is just plain stupid. Indefensible. The people here who brag about not using meters often have thousands, even tens of thousands of dollars tied up in expensive Leica lenses and bodies. Trying to save $400 by not having a good meter is like driving my Crown Victoria without changing the oil because I don't wanna spend $20 on an oil change.
But lxMike said he had a limited budget. Are you saying he has tens of thousands of dollars tied up in his other gear? Only he knows what he can afford.In fact, a good meter is so vital to producing consistently high image quality that I'll go so far as to say that even trying to save money by buying an old or cheap one is just plain stupid. Indefensible. The people here who brag about not using meters often have thousands, even tens of thousands of dollars tied up in expensive Leica lenses and bodies. Trying to save $400 by not having a good meter is like driving my Crown Victoria without changing the oil because I don't wanna spend $20 on an oil change.
But lxMike said he had a limited budget. Are you saying he has tens of thousands of dollars tied up in his other gear? Only he knows what he can afford.
And, if people want to shoot without a meter, it is their business. Only they know what they want out of their photography experience and what they are willing to accept as far as quality. Saying their choice is stupid and indefensible is just plain rude.
lxMike,
I bought a Vivitar 24. I don't remember the price with shipping, but I think it was around $35 USD including shipping. I've checked it the results from a few metered cameras and I'm happy with my purchase.
And what I said is the truth. You are entitled to your opinion, everyone is, but it only holds true for yourself. Photography is a personal thing and there is no right and wrong on how to do it. Doesn't matter that you were replying to another poster. Your comment about a lot of money tied up equipment, but skimping elsewhere, is a generalization unless you happen to know the guy...it was still the truth.
Gossen Luna Pro Sbc, with spot attachment if that is useful for you. It's been my meter for over 20 years, and has never let me down. And you can get a flash attachment for it too, if you need a studio meter. I did some portraits this weekend, and the meter was spot on, as it always has been.
It's one of my favorite pieces of photo equipment. Don't leave home without it. (It is not small, however)
I prefer an analog meter, and I like the way the Luna Pro reads out directly in f-stop and shutter speed combinations. If you prefer digital, all bets are off. I would, however, try to handle a digital and analog meter to see which you have a feel for. In my experience, people can have strong preferences one way or another. For accuracy and durability, though, you can't go wrong with a Luna Pro SBC.
Absolutely false. RFF is filled with people who claim that they do not need a meter (and they're shooting old cameras that do not have one built in). It shows in the quality of their work. Why half-ass things? The photo world is so competitive, why put yourself at a disadvantage just so you can thump you chest in some silly ego trip.
I've been shooting for almost 30 years. I still use a meter, every time. The kind of lighting where it is easy to guess exposure is the ugliest light. In early mornings and late evenings, as well as night work and indoor work, it is impossible for anyone to accurately guess exposure consistently.
In fact, a good meter is so vital to producing consistently high image quality that I'll go so far as to say that even trying to save money by buying an old or cheap one is just plain stupid. Indefensible. The people here who brag about not using meters often have thousands, even tens of thousands of dollars tied up in expensive Leica lenses and bodies. Trying to save $400 by not having a good meter is like driving my Crown Victoria without changing the oil because I don't wanna spend $20 on an oil change.
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Indeed, I reckon many amateurs would get better slides with no meter and just using the film manufacturer's instructions like those old box ends.