Using Leica M lens, X-Pro1/XE-1 or NEX6/7?

Using Leica M lens, X-Pro1/XE-1 or NEX6/7?

  • Fujifilm X-Pro1 or XE-1

    Votes: 81 71.7%

  • SONY NEX6/7

    Votes: 32 28.3%
  • Total voters
    113
back alley said:
some hardheadedness in this thread...

can't you guys see that both sides are right and wrong at the same time?

is it so hard to understand someone's disappointment at getting the latest camera and discovering that it is being usurped almost immediately by a younger model?
and it's should be clear that camera makers do not have consumers at their top level of priorities but that sales and constant improvement of both camera and sales is number 1 for them.
we all win and we all lose a little and all at the same time.
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Sure, but it's not like Fuji introduced the X-E2... it's the X100s and it isn't even shipping for a few months.
 
Ron (Netherlands) said:
According to Fuji that lens can't be used:
http://www.fujifilm.com/products/di...fujifilm_m_mount_adapter/compatibility_chart/
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Copying and pasting from that link:

Leica M Summicron M 35mm F2 (1st　195:cool: Yes
Leica M Summicron M 35mm F2 (2nd　1969-) Yes
Leica M Summicron M 35mm F2 (3rd 1980-) No

Since I have Version 3, this concerns me if I end up buying the Fuji, which I'm definitely considering.

I interpreted (1st 195:cool:, (2nd 1969-) and (3rd 1980-) to mean Versions 1, 2 and 3 of this lens.

Why would Version 3 of this lens not work when Versions 1 and 2 work fine?

If anyone has experience using Version 3 of the Summicron 35mm with the Fuji, I'd like to hear about it.

Ellen
 
No actual experience with v3 here, but Fuji brand's adapter has electronic contact, which narrow its neck and is the reason for the incompatibility. If you are using off brand adapter it will likely work.
 
aleksanderpolo said:
Fuji brand's adapter has electronic contact, which narrow its neck and is the reason for the incompatibility. If you are using off brand adapter it will likely work.
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Thanks for the explanation.

The question that then comes up: Is the off brand adapter as good as the Fuji adapter in allowing M lenses to be used on the Fuji X cameras?

Ellen
 
ornate_wrasse said:
Copying and pasting from that link:

Leica M Summicron M 35mm F2 (1st　195:cool: Yes
Leica M Summicron M 35mm F2 (2nd　1969-) Yes
Leica M Summicron M 35mm F2 (3rd 1980-) No

Since I have Version 3, this concerns me if I end up buying the Fuji, which I'm definitely considering.

I interpreted (1st 195:cool:, (2nd 1969-) and (3rd 1980-) to mean Versions 1, 2 and 3 of this lens.

Why would Version 3 of this lens not work when Versions 1 and 2 work fine?

If anyone has experience using Version 3 of the Summicron 35mm with the Fuji, I'd like to hear about it.

Ellen
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if you check the pic I uploaded early, it's exactly a Ver 3 on the Xe1 with the Fuji adapter. No problem at all.

if you don't need the adapter's build in lens adjustment, you can use any 3rd party adapter. But most of the 3rd party adapters at the same quality level are not cheap too.

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The versions that Fuji refers to and the versions we are used to are not the same. I am pretty sure that OUR version 4 pre-asph bokeh king is the model that will not fit with the Fuji adapter. Not the end of the world though, the lens and most others can be used with the inexpensive ($22.00) adapters just fine. just look at the adapters and if they have a narrow throat, like the Fuji brand, they probably won't work. The ones that don't have the narrow throat should work fine, mine does and there's no real loss of functionality. Bob.
 
The dates indicate that Fuji is lumping what we refer to as the version 2 and version 3 into one group that they call version 2. The version 4 (Fuji's version 3) came out about 1980. Bob.
 
Bob,

Thank you for the clarification. I can now see that the version 3 that I own shouldn't cause any problems if I buy the camera and the Fuji adapter. But good to know that, should I ever buy Version 4, I won't have any problem if I purchase an adapter without the narrow throat.
 
ornate_wrasse said:
Thanks for the explanation.

The question that then comes up: Is the off brand adapter as good as the Fuji adapter in allowing M lenses to be used on the Fuji X cameras?

Ellen
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Not all adapters are created equal. The Fuji adapter is well made but does not maintain the correct register distance. This is so as to enable infinity focus on all lenses. The net effect however is that the focus distance scale is off. I covered this in my report mentioned above.

Rayqual, which I have not used, are of high quality, maintain the register difference...which may cause infinity focus issues on some lenses. However Fuji seems to disable the full 3rd party lens menu, so your ability to customise light falloff and distortion is limited. It may be possible to setup the default processing without the adapter attached and this would solve that problem, but I can not attest to that as I have not used it.
 
Hey Robin, sounds very good. Since I'm seriously considering this combo (together with my other 35mm crons), could you show or give us a link to some of the pictures you shot with this combo (such images are hard to find, even on flickr were I found one shot taken with the asph 35mm cron)
tnx

roundg said:
Here is the happy ending of the story. I got a X-E1 with the Fuji M adapter 1 week ago. I use only Leica lens on it and find it's a real pleasure to use. OK it doesn't have the peaking and even the EVF is very good I have to use the 3X magnify almost every time. But the location of the wheel is so perfect that it's so easy -- much easier than any of my Micro 4/3 camera.

The IQ from the X-E1 is very impressive. I use the standard film mode and find the color is very pleasing.

I prefer the interface of the X-E1 to the NEX camera. And it's also slightly bigger and fit better in my hands. I have to purchase a Half case to rest my little finger.

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btw I have seen pictures made with the Fujinon 14mm (comp 21mm) which are incredible! : see one here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/42363616@N05/8476962155/
 
nanthor said:
If you plan on using M lenses on an X camera with the new Fuji sensor, be prepared to soon give up your lenses and film and Leica altogether. The Fuji lenses combined with the sensor are sooooooo good that you'll gasp when you open them up, and that's just the jpg's. Now that some of the major editing programs are supporting the new sensor design I can't imagine how much better the raw files will turn out. Combine this with the relatively low cost, good construction and AF of the lenses and you'll wonder why you bother with manual focus and non-Fuji lenses. Really.
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I agree. I bought the xp1 to use my Leica glass. I got the 35 Fuji too.Now the Leica stuff just sits and all my new Fuji glass is used.
 
The Fujis and NEXs are different in a few ways but either one is great. I shoot Fuji but if someone said: "tomorrow you start shooting NEX," that would be peachy. Both systems are light, compact, and offer good value and great image quality. The differences are there but in the end they are not nearly as significant as some would claim.
 
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