28mm lens viewfinder blockage on a M8

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Hi,
I might buy an M8 with a 28mm lens. But it seems that all those "cheap" 28mm lenses are big and bulky, especially the voigtlander f2.
I'm considering 2 lenses right now. The zeiss 28mm f2.8 and the voigtlander 28mm f2 ultron.
Has anyone used any of those lenses and does the lense protrude inside the framelines in the viewfinder? It's fine if it protrudes inside the viewfinder, but not inside the framelines... And if it does protrude inside the framelines how much?
 
All the 28mm lenses I've tried block the framelines, at least with a hood attached.

The Leica 28/2.8 blocks the least of the lenses I tried, and has a cutout in the hood.
 
I can't afford any leica lenses right now...
I'm thinking of the zeiss 28mm 2.8 because it seems smaller than the voigtlander ultron.
Have you used it? How much does it block? If it's a minimal amount, it's fine.
 
i'd recommend getting an Elmarit 28mm. You can find older versions between $900 and $1100 if you keep your eyes opened. That's about the same as the Zeiss 28mm.
 
For what it's worth, viewfinder blockage to some degree is inevitable with RF cameras, avoided only with the smallest lenses. The wider the lens, the more it blocks. This bothers some users a lot, but most of us eventually come not to notice it any more. I suspect we get in the habit of looking at the scene directly, so we know what's going to be in the lower right of the frame. Or move the camera down and right for a moment to get a quick glimpse of the occluded area.

The Zeiss 28 is a little on the larger side. If you can learn to love f/3.5, then the Voigtlander Scopar 3.5/28mm is a gem. And it's very small. Have fun!
 
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