BernardL
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I have a Fujica GS645W. The frame spacing is becoming erratic. I know from a previous repair that the frame counter, shutter cocking interlock, etc... use plastic gears. And I suspect that the original lubricant has dried, causing the frame spacing problem. I don't know more about the material than "plastic" (white, translucent).
Questions.
Questions.
- What would be a safe solvent for cleaning old grease. Isopropanol? Naphta? Acetone I presume to be unsafe.
- What would be a safe lubricant for these plastic gears?
Darthfeeble
But you can call me Steve
Rubbing alky is my favorite to clean just about any delicate thing.
BernardL
Well-known
You mean rubbing alcool, a.k.a. isopropyl alcool? what is your experience with dried lubricant?
Thank you.
Thank you.
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I have a Fujica GS645W. The frame spacing is becoming erratic. I know from a previous repair that the frame counter, shutter cocking interlock, etc... use plastic gears. And I suspect that the original lubricant has dried, causing the frame spacing problem. I don't know more about the material than "plastic" (white, translucent).
Questions.
Thank you.
- What would be a safe solvent for cleaning old grease. Isopropanol? Naphta? Acetone I presume to be unsafe.
- What would be a safe lubricant for these plastic gears?
As an ex- watch repair guy and ex- aircraft technician, alcohol is good and efficacious when used with a small brush (artist's kind).
White translucent could be hard nylon which, like most plastics, needs no lubricant.
Good luck!
Retro-Grouch
Veteran
The question of what lubricant to use, once the gears are clean, is key. Some lubricants can be absorbed by the plastic, causing it to swell and weaken. When I worked in the bike industry, we often encountered gears made of unknown plastics; for those, we standardized on silicone or PTFE (polytetraflouroethylene, say that fast, three times in a row, and conjure up demons!) lubes. Never any problems.
Godfrey
somewhat colored
The question of what lubricant to use, once the gears are clean, is key. Some lubricants can be absorbed by the plastic, causing it to swell and weaken. When I worked in the bike industry, we often encountered gears made of unknown plastics; for those, we standardized on silicone or PTFE (polytetraflouroethylene, say that fast, three times in a row, and conjure up demons!) lubes. Never any problems.
I was about to say the same thing, and now I know what not to do when I'm irritated by some obfuscant piece of machinery...
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BernardL
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Thank you all for your advice. The repair forum on RFF is top!
Darthfeeble
But you can call me Steve
probably will require the services of a tooth brush and or tooth picks, it can be stubborn when dried hard. Soak in the over night, the beauty of alky is it is the least distructive of the cleaners. I have one of the super cleaners that I wrote "Not on Plastic" written all over it, learned that the hard way.You mean rubbing alcool, a.k.a. isopropyl alcool? what is your experience with dried lubricant?
Thank you.
BernardL
Well-known
Please share with the RFF forum what is that cleaner. This might help avoid costly mistakes.I have one of the super cleaners that I wrote "Not on Plastic" written all over it, learned that the hard way.
Malcolm M
Well-known
Here's a website that might be able to offer advice...
Darthfeeble
But you can call me Steve
It's called "Goof Off" (honest!), there is also on my workbench another not quite as strong but will craze softer plastics "Goo Gone". Neither is recommended for use on anything camera related.Please share with the RFF forum what is that cleaner. This might help avoid costly mistakes.
rfaspen
[insert pithy phrase here]
As an ex- watch repair guy and ex- aircraft technician, alcohol is good and efficacious when used with a small brush (artist's kind).
White translucent could be hard nylon which, like most plastics, needs no lubricant.
Good luck!
Rob-F
Likes Leicas
We keep a little GooGone around the house for removing sticky labels. It's citrus-based. I'm glad to know it mustn't be used for plastics! Thanks!It's called "Goof Off" (honest!), there is also on my workbench another not quite as strong but will craze softer plastics "Goo Gone". Neither is recommended for use on anything camera related.
When I worked in an electronics lab, we used 190 proof ethyl alcohol for cleaning circuit boards and such. It came in a big container, and was drinkable!
Darthfeeble
But you can call me Steve
I was in Navy Air and the infamous "Torpedo Juice" found it's way into my life on one occasion. Another solvent is Naptha, famous for cleaning aperture leaves but I've never used it so I can't say it's good for plastic. Acetone will eat some plastics too, another poor choice for cleaning our gear.We keep a little GooGone around the house for removing sticky labels. It's citrus-based. I'm glad to know it mustn't be used for plastics! Thanks!
When I worked in an electronics lab, we used 190 proof ethyl alcohol for cleaning circuit boards and such. It came in a big container, and was drinkable!
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