Ororaro
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Oh, an image from a black paint Leica 50mm lens? Yes, and it’s also in my upcoming amazing Book.
LLL 50mm f/1.2 ASPH "1966"
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Slumgullion
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The weather wasn't very nice in January. Didn't shoot much film. Took a few snaps with the LLL 50mm f/1.2 '1966' on my A7RII last night.
Jenny by Jim Fischer, on Flickr
Jenny by Jim Fischer, on Flickr
Jenny by Jim Fischer, on Flickr
Jenny by Jim Fischer, on FlickrJenny by Jim Fischer, on FlickrJenny by Jim Fischer, on Flickr
Erik van Straten
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The onion-rings are not disturbing at all, I would say. Great pictures!
Sonnar Brian
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They are great pictures.
The onion rings- do surprise me. One of those optimization by-products that define a lens.
We need a new, cool name for these artifacts.
Contours D'Elegance.
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The onion rings- do surprise me. One of those optimization by-products that define a lens.
We need a new, cool name for these artifacts.
Contours D'Elegance.
I grant LLL unlimited use of the new, cool, play on words.
Slumgullion
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The contours d’elegance were surprising to me, as well. I appreciate the desire of LLL to do everything in-house, but it might’ve been advisable to farm-out production to any of the optical companies that produce precision ground aspherical optics (with the very, very expensive aspherical grinding machines). Perhaps (most likely) they have good reasons for why they didn’t pursue that course of action.
Erik van Straten
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Boy, I want one ...
Slumgullion
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They are beautiful lenses. You would do great work with one.
sojournerphoto
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I like them - added to the optical vignette they are subtle flying saucers🙂
It does render nicely.
Freakscene
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Really? Wow. I really dislike the way they texturise specular highlights.
Marty
Duofold RF
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The lady is beautiful, no to be rude, the lens is lousy judge by image/dollar. Actually, the $200 dollars 50mm f1.1 7 artisans out performed this lens in tern of bokehThe weather wasn't very nice in January. Didn't shoot much film. Took a few snaps with the LLL 50mm f/1.2 '1966' on my A7RII last night.
Erik van Straten
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"The lady is beautiful, no to be rude, the lens is lousy judge by image/dollar. Actually, the $200 dollars 50mm f1.1 7 artisans out performed this lens in tern of bokeh"
Yes, but not in terms of sharpness. I would say that the onion-rings are hardly visible, they are in these examples absolutely not disturbing in my opinion, in fact, I like them, as a kind of character trait of the lens.
Yes, but not in terms of sharpness. I would say that the onion-rings are hardly visible, they are in these examples absolutely not disturbing in my opinion, in fact, I like them, as a kind of character trait of the lens.
Freakscene
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There are no specular highlights in these photos; they won’t show onion rings. I like these photos very much too. The frequent subject of photos by @Slumgullion, I think her name is Jenny, is an extremely photogenic subject.
dexdog
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The two "flying saucers" near the left edge of the frame in the first two photos show onion rings, but I do not find them to be objectionable. I think that this lens has lovely rendering of out of focus areas
yossi
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Yes, there are onion rings within the two "flying saucers", but have to view at 100% to see them. Not obvious nor disturbing.
Freakscene
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They are from flare from the light over the subject’s right shoulder. Where I really dislike the texture particularly is in photos like this with a lot of direct specular components:
Recurring issue with the 56mm f1.2: harsh rings inside bokeh: Fujifilm X System / SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review
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Erik van Straten
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On the extreme left of the pictures I see two specular highlights - a blue one and a yellow one - both totally unsharp. In those spots I see onion rings, but they are hardly visible. From what you write I understand that you want to say that in other shots the onion rings in specular highlights will be much more visible and much more disturbing. Am I correct here?
I understand too that you say that there will be much clearer spots within the specular highlights in other shots. But many lenses produce boheh-balls with clear spots in them, such as the early 35mm f1.4 lenses by Leitz (the steelrims) and the Heliar 50mm f2 by Cosina. I've never heard of people finding them disturbing, but the bokeh balls in pictures made with those lenses are much smaller anyway.
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Freakscene
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If the LLL 50/1.2 behaves like my Leica one, my interpretation is that they are more likely to be internal reflections, but yes, I see them. My take on them is that they are less obvious than I have often seen onion rings - if they are specular highlights they are from a large enough source, close enough to the edge of the field, and subject to enough aberrations (the f1.2 Noctilux has a reasonable amount of residual coma) that the onion rings are also blurred. For a really bad example, look at the photo at the link I posted.
Yes. Among others, I need to use Fuji X cameras at work for a number of reasons, including that there are a few places where we have third party equipment that was designed to work with them. Their lenses often have horrible rendition in out of focus specular highlights.
No, I don’t mean clear balls. I mean concentric circles that texturise the spot. Take a look at the link.
My Leica aspherical lenses do this, but much less than Fuji lenses do. It’s one reason I usually have my 50 f1 Noctilux with me - the lens is exceptional, but it is also all spherical and doesn’t texturise the specular highlights.
Erik van Straten
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Thank you, Freakscene. I like the Noctilux f1 too, but that lens is much bigger and heavier. Maybe it is better to stay with my Nokton f1.1!
gelatin silver print (nokton 50mm f1.1) leica mp
Steven, 2012
gelatin silver print (nokton 50mm f1.1) leica mp
Steven, 2012
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Ew that is gross. I don't think I've ever noticed something like this before.They are from flare from the light over the subject’s right shoulder. Where I really dislike the texture particularly is in photos like this with a lot of direct specular components:
Recurring issue with the 56mm f1.2: harsh rings inside bokeh: Fujifilm X System / SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review
Expert news, reviews and videos of the latest digital cameras, lenses, accessories, and phones. Get answers to your questions in our photography forums.
Out to Lunch
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The poster clarifies that he bought his XF 1.2/56 R lens second-hand at a low price. Perhaps it's just damaged. Many moons ago, I bought mine new and it does not have this problem.
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