Kodak Film Announcement

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I am not sure where to post this. A quick search of "film" titles yielded many but none pertinent that I could see so I post it here in Brian's backyard. News to me, it seems Kodak is expanding film production with upgraded facilities in Rochester.

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Retro-Grouch said:
Good news, as far as it goes. But anyone expecting a Kodachrome return is still in serious denial.
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Someone posted here that the new Ektachrome's palette is the closest to that of Kodachrome. I don't know, myself. If Ektachrome is our only remaining slide film, I hope Kodak sees fit to keep producing it, along with their other existing films.

- Murray
 
wlewisiii said:
Agreed.

It was an ecological nightmare to make and to process. There is no way to make it that isn't. It will never come back the way it was.
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Much as I miss Kodachrome, I understand how polluting the process was, and I regard its loss as one of the small compromises that I'd willingly make for the sake of the environment.
 
CMur12 said:
Someone posted here that the new Ektachrome's palette is the closest to that of Kodachrome. I don't know, myself. If Ektachrome is our only remaining slide film, I hope Kodak sees fit to keep producing it, along with their other existing films.

- Murray
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This is reaching way back into the dim land of foggy memories but as I remember Ektachrome ran bluer than Koidachrome and was not as bold. Its colors were not as bright. And IIRC the "hipsters" preferred it. It seemed to have greater panache with those "in the know". I never shot it.
 
boojum said:
This is reaching way back into the dim land of foggy memories but as I remember Ektachrome ran bluer than Koidachrome and was not as bold. Its colors were not as bright. And IIRC the "hipsters" preferred it. It seemed to have greater panache with those "in the know". I never shot it.
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Boojum, I think this reference was to the latest Ektachrome, which, as I understand it, underwent a significant reformulation. I agree with you about Ektachrome in the past.

- Murray
 
boojum said:
This is reaching way back into the dim land of foggy memories but as I remember Ektachrome ran bluer than Koidachrome and was not as bold. Its colors were not as bright. And IIRC the "hipsters" preferred it. It seemed to have greater panache with those "in the know". I never shot it.
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Yes, that is my recollection as well. I also recall shooting Ektachrome (mostly E-200) in my 6x7 Pentaxes and Fuji 670.... glorious big transparencies. But I was never fond of the cool color bias. Early on there was High Speed Ektachrome with ASA 160.. wow! ;-)
 
CMur12 said:
Boojum, I think this reference was to the latest Ektachrome, which, as I understand it, underwent a significant reformulation. I agree with you about Ektachrome in the past.

- Murray
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OK, hopefully the new one will be more balanced. Kodak fumbled digital which they could have owned. Let's hope they have more success with the return of Ektachrome.

Haloid Paper owned the copier business (Xerox) with patents. Kodak eventually got around it but never saw Xerox's success. Let's wish Kodak luck with this effort. Kodak seems better engineers than businessmen.
 
boojum said:
OK, hopefully the new one will be more balanced. Kodak fumbled digital which they could have owned. Let's hope they have more success with the return of Ektachrome.

Haloid Paper owned the copier business (Xerox) with patents. Kodak eventually got around it but never saw Xerox's success. Let's wish Kodak luck with this effort. Kodak seems better engineers than businessmen.
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I suppose that the longer a company is around, the more likely it is to make some blunders. Xerox has certainly not been immune to such things. After all it was Xerox that initially developed the graphical user interface for computing, but upon seeing this Apple was the company to run with it. And we all know how that worked out.

Those with an interest in such things should search out the lengthy 3-part series over on the YouTube channel “SmarterEveryDay” where they tour Kodak’s film production facility. Not only can you see exactly how film is made in great detail, but you come to realize just how much effort goes into doing so. You can also see the effort Kodak is making to ensure that the specialized knowledge required for what they do is being passed along from those who have been with them for a very long time to the next generation of employees that they will be dependent on in the coming years. I found this content to be fascinating on many different levels.
 
I personally dislike the cine films and especially the ECN-2 processing but, that said, this is shooting themselves in their foot. Not surprising if they got bought by Vulture Capitalists.

We've seen this before. Hope Harmon Phoenix turns into a decent film someday because Kodak is a dead man walking.
 
Guth said:
I suppose that the longer a company is around, the more likely it is to make some blunders. Xerox has certainly not been immune to such things. After all it was Xerox that initially developed the graphical user interface for computing, but upon seeing this Apple was the company to run with it. And we all know how that worked out.

Those with an interest in such things should search out the lengthy 3-part series over on the YouTube channel “SmarterEveryDay” where they tour Kodak’s film production facility. Not only can you see exactly how film is made in great detail, but you come to realize just how much effort goes into doing so. You can also see the effort Kodak is making to ensure that the specialized knowledge required for what they do is being passed along from those who have been with them for a very long time to the next generation of employees that they will be dependent on in the coming years. I found this content to be fascinating on many different levels.
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Kodak missing the boat on digital also meant the missed the boat on film. After digital took off film dried up. That is a huge error.

That Wozniak and Jobs saw a demo of a mouse and GUI at Xerox PARC and stole it is unfortunate, too. But Xerox is still here and healthy and we do not know how keen they were about entering the computer business. Yes, that could have been a great idea. Xerox did not do it, they are still quite successful. Digital computers were already around at the time. It is a moot point.

The longer you are in business the more risk you are exposed to, yes. But will there be good, available, plentiful film? Is there a market or is this a bubble, a fad? As for Kodak strangling respoolers, well, they can sell what they want at any price they want. I used to buy respooled 30 years ago. Positives in slide form, negative film strips and prints. At a good price and the color was nice, it was definitely more what you would see up on the theater screen than standard film stocks.
 
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